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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (192928)	2/2/2021 3:59:00 PM
From: CentralParkRanger	Respond to of 358739

There is no evidence that has been been made public that any cop was injured by any protestor. I-node, why don't you try to think before you post? Oh, I forgot, that you lack this ability - to think. No way, I am not going to mock mentally challenged people...

To: i-node who wrote (192928)	2/2/2021 4:04:20 PM
From: Brumar89	3 Recommendations Recommended By combjelly rdkflorida2 Terry Maloney Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 358739

I saw an unconscious officer on the ground being swarmed over by TrumpNazis and that wasn't the one whose head was bashed in. I saw multiple videos of mass violence - we all did - and everyone knows you're lying. Why are you lying? What benefit do you get out of it? Other than your own debasement and humililation?

To: i-node who wrote (192928)	2/2/2021 4:07:44 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 rdkflorida2 Respond to of 358739

There is no evidence that has been been made public that any cop was injured by any protestor. The throw occurs around the 18-19 second point in this videol....it's very clear. washingtonpost.com

To: i-node who wrote (192928)	2/2/2021 4:20:17 PM
From: Wharf Rat	1 Recommendation Recommended By rdkflorida2 Respond to of 358739

Welcome back from your trip to the land of the pharaohs. I hear it's a good year for the farmers, cuz de Nile is its highest level this century.

To: i-node who wrote (192928)	2/2/2021 4:29:50 PM
From: combjelly	1 Recommendation Recommended By rdkflorida2 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 358739

There is no evidence that has been been made public that any cop was injured by any protestor. So, are you saying the cops injured each other? Actually, your statement is false. There is plenty of video of it happening. And people have been arrested. Now true, no one has been convicted of it as of yet.

To: i-node who wrote (192928)	2/3/2021 12:20:20 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 358739

There is no evidence that has been been made public that any cop was injured by any protestor. That's a preposterous assertion. We've seen the videos. (Unless you mean by "protestor" only those who remained outside. Those who entered the Capitol left behind the "protestor" label.) But my response was strictly to counter your statement that there was no violence against cops. Separate subject. A lot of people on both sides are emphasizing violence, for example, whether there was more or less violence as compared to a BLM event. My position doesn't stand on whether or not there was violence let alone how much. I consider that a distraction. Many types of crowds can get violent. It's wrong and, as you say, should be punished. The critical difference here, instead, is that the action at the Capitol was one part of the failed attempt to overthrow the election, an auto-coup, if you will. The subversion is the critical crime, not the behavior of those who entered the Capitol. Any violence that may have occurred during the final thrust, however horrific, is secondary. Unless you want Guilt by Association I'm reminded of an extended conversation I had with a friend a couple of weeks ago about collective nouns and the verbs that go with them. The individuals in the collective are entities that take a singular verb. The collective is also an entity and, as such, takes a singular verb. For example, "the quarterback is" vs "the team is," both singular. In this case we have Ashli, an individual, who became a member of a mob, a collective. It was (not were) the mob that was (not were) breaking down the barricaded door. Ashli just happened to be at the tip of the spear upon breach. Guilt by association applies to separate but related entities. Guilt by association would apply to some cousin of a member of the mob who was at home in Tennessee at the time of the event. The cousin, albeit perhaps a sympathizer, is not guilty. That concept is illustrated by the crime of felony murder. The notion of guilt by association does not apply to Ashli. She ceded her individual agency to the mob; she was the mob, not an associate to it.