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To: FIFO_kid2 who wrote (66504)2/11/2021 8:31:55 AM
From: E_K_S3 Recommendations

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Remember The Luckin Coffee IPO where CEO fabricated their sales

On 2 April 2020, Luckin Coffee announced that an internal investigation found that its chief operating officer, Jian Liu, had fabricated the company's 2019 sales by "around RMB2.2 billion" (US$310 million). [32] [33] The next day, the China Securities Regulatory Commission said that it would investigate the company for fraud. [34] On 8 April, the U.S. stock market halted trading on all Luckin shares over the fraud probe. [35] In the month of April, the company's stock fell by over 80%. [36] In mid-April 2020, American investment bank Goldman Sachs announced that it would seize and sell the Luckin stock holdings of the company's chairman, Lu Zhengyao, after he defaulted on a $518 million margin loan. [36]
That blew their FCF numbers out of the water. So, any Fraud in reported revenues impact FCF.

Another favorite was Mini-Scribe a disk drive manufacturer from 1987. Inventory was 'Fake' through an elaborate scheme of putting bricks in standard retail boxes.

False inventory was generated by packaging bricks as finished products and shipping them to distributors at the end of the year, so that they would be in transit at the time of the 1987 fiscal inventory. A computer program was created that would generate fictitious inventory serial numbers for the boxes of bricks. The program was named “Cook Book.” After the inventory the company called the distributors and requested that they return the products that have been shipped to them by mistake. Obsolete parts from the Longmont warehouse were shipped to MiniScribe’s plants in Singapore and Hong Kong. Together with scrap in obsolete parts that had accumulated in Singapore and Hong Kong, they were repackaged and labeled as active parts, which were then included in the 1987 inventory at those Far East locations.



To: FIFO_kid2 who wrote (66504)2/11/2021 11:48:48 AM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78819
 
"I also tend to rarely commit much capital in trickle down industries related to capital expenditures because even though the business they serve may be strong it doesn't guarantee they will spend it at a rate of their windfall."

Not sure what you mean here. I assume you mean that just because a business or sector that is doing well and has capital expendures, it does not necessarily mean their good times will result in more business orders given to their suppliers of those capital items the business/sector uses.

This part I'm with you on: "I also tend to rarely commit much capital to trickle down industries...because..."
My reason is different from your's though. ... because I'm too uncomfortable and generally don't understand the businesses.

On the other hand, "even though the business they serve may be strong it doesn't guarantee they will spend it at a rate of their windfall." Yes, but the way to bet has been that they do spend (thus trickle down).

Reminded here of previous posts by bruwin, me, others specifically regarding semiconductor industry supplier stocks. Those suppliers of capital items to that industry are booming -- with some of their stocks up multiple times.

Just my comment. Basically irrelevant. -g-