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Strategies & Market Trends : Book: Hit And Run Trading by Jeff Cooper -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: RAK who wrote (123)2/2/1998 6:35:00 PM
From: Jim Snyder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 438
 
Ron,

I started testing the system in November, but I could never really make it profitable. I tested it with Supercharts 4.0 and the Dial Data 25 year historical data CD.

I programmed Jeff's "system" to buy on his signal, then sell in five days. Unfortunately, testing back 25 years on ALL stocks in the market with no stops, I came out losing $200 per trade (1000 shares, 1/8 slip, $20 per trade).

From there I just started tweaking the system by adding stops and other criterion. The best I came up with gained about $300 per share. But this one hardly ever traded and I feel it's too optimized.

So instead of doing all stocks in the market, I did only the Russell 1000, (Thinking larger, more popular stocks would fare better) but I got similar results.

In Jeff's book, He claims the method makes an average of 1 5/8 per trade (I think). I'm obviously not doing something he does, or I'm messing up my stops or something. I did get some good ideas from it, though!

Has anyone out there had any luck trading the 5 day momentum? (Or paper trading?)

Thanks,

Jim



To: RAK who wrote (123)2/2/1998 11:05:00 PM
From: Joe Sheets  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 438
 
RAK,

I have read the 5 day book twice and have just recieved my first copy of the e-mail stock picks from Jeff. I am going to paper trade them for the week of the free trial. I'll let you know how I do. I have also read his book on the Hit and Run method three times and have paper traded that method for about 7 trading days with moderate sucsess. It is very hard to paper trade that method because you HAVE too watch the stock during the day to make it work. the sucsess of the method is very dependent on the prudent use of trailing stops and exit points. Since I too have a day job, I was only able to "look back" at the day and see if I was stopped out(-$1) or ended the day with a profit. This, I feel does not reflect the true performance of the method. Another limiting factor is funds. I don't have enough of them!! To trade his Hit and Run method the way it is supposed to be you have to be able to buy(or sell short) approx. 1000 shares of 10-12 stocks that are priced from the mid $30's to $100 or more. That adds up in a hurry! Even on margin! I'm not saying that it cant be sucsessful with a smaller share purchase, say 200 or 300 shares. I'm sorry this is so long! if you have any specific questions I'll try to answer them.

Joe