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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/24/2021 10:44:10 PM
From: sense  Respond to of 217591
 
Agree with most of that.

The link with physics a bit tenuous, in the utility in description, but not as far as the shared math... although denominations defined in energy units seems it would be apropos.

A unit of value is a fundamental essential to decide course of action in financial relativity theory.


Existing crypto efforts have conflicts not just with the intrinsic qualities of prior money/currency... but internal conflicts with the new theory vs the reality delivered, and the required functions vs preferred functions... or those appended as parasites.

The conflict with existing authority will naturally revolve around taxes, and increasingly, intrusions seeking to abolish privacy...

Where's the value in that ?

Yes, bitcoin can be used to hide, store, and move money, but that's of limited use to nearly everyone.

Disagree with that a bit... on two aspects..

One, Jack's recent postings questioning the adopted narrative that crypto, is, has been and will forever be secure... and not already undone by the various agencies of various actors... which I assume to be the case since they are not interfering with it that much...

Two, that "limited use to nearly everyone" is a bit overly dismissive. That I don't intend to make use, today, of a thing I have obtained because I value its function... does not mean I don't value it. Life insurance... not only an obvious example... but the exact point of "can be used to hide, store, and move money". And, of course, what that means about those seeking to undermine those functions... is that they are a threat to your survival, seeking to cut you off from life sustaining capacities. Unused is not unwanted.

Both points converge... which ends up being about government and/or criminal enterprise in conflict with your self interest, and others... both insistently violating basic rights to privacy, and basic rights to accumulate wealth as a protection against bad things that happen in the world... in a form that greatly enhances that function... by sustaining privacy, security, portability. Government, essentially, is demanding that you are not to use cyber-money unless you pin it to the outside of your digital clothing... so everyone can see it... and learn, make, or take from it what they can... which is directly in conflict with... basic sanity.

To be an improvement... new forms of money have to better meet our needs... The conflict forming up here is one over "whose" needs it is that will define "progress" from here... as our "needs" are in conflict...

I think in the rest you're spot on... although I might add...

The energy cost in bitcoin... "seemed like a good idea at the time"... ? The concept that there has to be work involved to create perception of value... rather than simply "this many and no more"... in a limited edition... is not a full description... as there is and always will be some work involved in the effort required after the event of creation... to track the stuff correctly, append history, sustain integrity etc. I don't think the question of the "need'" for intermediaries is resolved, nor is the ability to go without them... so a meeting somewhere in the middle to minimize, and limit cost, while protecting function... including privacy... and not the celebration of Cathy Wood in the new intermediaries being geeks... capable of tracking 490,000 unique aspects of your financial interaction with society... Clear whose needs that plan is intent on meeting... but that's not 'better"...

An unresolved issue there... as the energy cost of bitcoin makes news... but credit card use costs are ignored ? LOL!! You are right again though, as I've also pointed out before, that the dollars I use are already fully digital... although I can get cash from an ATM or at the grocery check out if I want... and the only improvement I've noted being applied against that system... comes from PayPal. And I don't think PayPal's improvements are that big... mostly just a function of reducing transaction costs a little bit, while competing against an essentially monopolistic industry that over-charges for transactions... as it has done for 26 years and counting... since ending the first effort made trying to force banking into the dot.com age...

Competition requires that focus in improvement on a cost basis... not just expecting to underbid competitors without any ability (solar vs oil) to lower the costs meaningfully. So the competitor to beat is not "banks" but PayPal...

The interfaces also have not been rationalized... somewhere between zero security in cash (gold/silver) other than what I am able to provide myself or pay to obtain... a credit card with huge fraud routinely enabled and massive fees, in the aggregate...or a crazy number in a security code I have to remember... or flying to Switzerland to present that, or some paper, in person... so I can then fly back home and buy a gallon of milk ? And, a card in my wallet... or numbers in my phone... swipey things or digital traces easily lifted by a passer by with the right tools... Even if "tokenization" changes some things... it won't do much I see to improve the physical elements of "something" needed as a physical repository or operating device...

Which itself isn't very different in theory than "an intermediary"... ? So, disposing of intermediaries needs rethinking to get rid of the slime balls trying to crawl into your pocket, first, and then from there into your... life... while improving upon those elements that make life easier... without making it riskier... ?

The spectrum bounded by extremes in security versus convenience and utility... needs narrowing.

And that gets closer to bigger issues... Crypto has done a good job of forcing a rethinking of "money" and "currency"... "store of value'...

But, the unstated... that needs stating... is that the conversation has worked hard at avoiding fostering discussions that go that next step... to discuss "value"... what it is... where it comes from... why it matters... and how our choices impact other things... as they are transmitted through the network with "value" and "values" attached, and inseparable one from the other.

The authors of the American Constitution and the generation that followed them, were engaged in constant battle over whether or not we would have "a bank"... They talked about "honest money"... and "sound money"... And, today... we need to discuss those things again, including the differences between them... or the whole point of "different" money that is no more honest and no more sound than that we have now... is no improvement at all... and only a greater threat to our personal and financial security.

How "value" and "values" are connected through our choices... should not be ignored... but neither should limits be ignored... rather than adopted... in deliberately preventing money becoming a cudgel to use in oppressing dissenting opinion... or in forcing acceptance of degraded values ?

i would like to see the Federal Reserve answer re those same issues... to the SEC... with filings that describe the features and functions (like MOPE, its meaning, conceptual core, attachments, and justifications) in relation to the dollar as it is also a privately issued security... which has not been registered ? [Bringing us full circle to where this all started... in a Tenth Amendment argument posted on an SEC web hosted public comment page in the 1990's, for which there was no ready reply... and much subsequent avoidance.] And, along with that, particularly needed illumination in regard to the sponsorship... the beneficial sponsors... and exactly what it is that is being sponsored...

What makes the dollar neither honest nor sound... (others no better, still) has nothing to do with the slips of paper or the electron trails through which it manifests ? So, the component of "honest" and "sound" resident outside that trail in the ether, that bit of coin or cotton rag... means some of "what money is" also lies outside of "what (or where) a bitcoin is"... some ineffable quality that is inherent to and resident within the creature that is the network it inhabits like a ghost...

It's spirit... ? The spirit in the machine... defines it... either corrupting all it touches through the network, as an extension projecting that it represents in the image and ideas of its creators... or extracting their best and filtering the dross, manifesting the best of us, only that which is sound, and honest, in more pure form ?

What other universal goods... ought to be represented... that none would dispute ?



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/25/2021 5:17:43 AM
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Casper ICO (Option #2 out of 3 options) went as expected, that it was sold out Min $50K / Max $250K - for 400M tokens at $0.02 per Casper, totalling $8M worth

I woke up early to queue for waiting room, got into the waiting room on the dot of 7:00am, and at 8:00am (00:00 UTC) was randomly assigned a spot

#14,691 meaning at least ahead of me w/ at least 50K to spend

By #14,485, all Caspers gone for Option #2

Meaning 206 folks were let out of the waiting and allowed to buy, and supposing all bid $50K then 160 folks bought, and 46 screwed up their 10 min allotments

Game-over all in 13 minutes.

Thank goodness I have tokens from the two earlier private rounds.

I begin to see the issue w/ the revolution, that it be difficult to engage with.

Eventual lunch was easy, and nap easier.


















To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/25/2021 5:42:14 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217591
 
Elon is soooooo funny, as in humorous - BTC for Tesla car :0)

Wait till he and Michael Saylor of MicroStrategy (MSTR) figure out that they can buy each other's shares by borrowing on their respective BTCs

bloomberg.com

Tesla’s Bitcoin Adventure Promises an Even Wilder Ride

Adding more digital currency to the automaker’s balance sheet is enough to give an equity analyst nightmares.
Mark Gilbert

25 March 2021, 14:00 GMT+8


Aren’t we going to the moon?

Photographer: Hannibal Hanschke-Pool/Getty Images

Elon Musk, the Technoking of Tesla Inc., says the electric vehicle maker will now accept payment in Bitcoin for its cars. Adding more of the capricious cryptocurrency to the balance sheet of one of the world’s fastest growing companies by market capitalization could prove explosive.

Bitcoin has doubled in value this year, after more than trebling in 2020, and reached a record of almost $62,000 earlier this month. But its journey has been far from a one-way ride. With Tesla’s 12-month price target estimate already producing an almost 800% divergence between the most bullish and bearish forecasts, increasing the company’s exposure to digital currencies will make valuing the company even harder for analysts and investors alike.



Source: Bloomberg

A few weeks ago, I suggested that adding Bitcoin into a traditional portfolio that allocated 60% to stocks and 40% to government bonds could be one way of defending against a decline in equities at a time when the fixed income side was at risk of failing to protect returns. I noted that this was likely to increase the volatility of an investment portfolio, but I hadn’t appreciated by how much.

Joseph Albert, a retired computer scientist in Oregon who spent part of his career working in financial services, wrote to me pointing out that “Bitcoin is so volatile that even a 5% allocation dominates portfolio volatility” — an argument he backed up by using the website portfoliovisualizer.com to test what just a small allocation would do to both returns and volatility.



Adding the cryptocurrency certainly generates more profit. But volatility, as measured by the standard deviation from the mean, also surges, even with just a 5% allocation. And that’s true whether the allotment is taken from either the equity or the bond division. Double-digit volatility makes the tweaked portfolio much more risky.

Increasingly, Wall Street is being forced to take digital currencies more seriously, albeit with a healthy dose of skepticism. A report by Bank of America Corp. last week concluded that there was “no good reason” to own Bitcoin other than to speculate on a further gain in prices, with the virtual currency deemed “impractical as a store of wealth or payments mechanism.”

Tesla’s new payment method was announced in a tweet by Musk, and it’s far from clear how Tesla plans to deal with Bitcoin’s volatility or how many customers are likely to use it. At current values, you could buy a top-of-the-range Model X SUV Plaid for about two Bitcoins; at the start of the year, the same car would have cost about four Bitcoins based on its dollar sticker price.

Moreover, Musk says Tesla will keep any customer crypto payments in the digital realm, rather than converting them into dollars, adding to the $1.5 billion it invested in Bitcoin in February. Valuing Tesla has always been as much of an art as a science; adding more Bitcoin to the company’s balance sheet is the stuff of equity analysts’ nightmares.

This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.

To contact the author of this story:
Mark Gilbert at magilbert@bloomberg.net

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Nicole Torres at ntorres51@bloomberg.net

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/25/2021 4:59:37 PM
From: sense  Respond to of 217591
 
Could wax on, and perhaps should, about "value" and "values" in money... how they are connected... and the impact on everything of accepting their structured inferiority. Knowing what the flaws are, and then how the flaws are entrained... thus means they can be divorced... from the systems that will transparently transmit and amplify the most fundamental frauds if they are not stopped... prevented... or filtered out.

Will assume the smart crowd here understands...

Only stopping to point out... when you understand that is true...

Inflation is a measure of the degree in which your society is based on fraud... in some part.

Its full expression... is a measure of the degree in which the fraud has progressed to the point the ability to control that perception has been lost.

The problem, in Zimbabwean terms:

Not a deficit in understanding economics... but a deficit in morals and ethics... that obviates the first concern.

Gold, as better money, even only because it cannot be manufactured... thus eliminates only that one source of fraud...but does not eliminate greed, evil, or the willingness of people to be corrupted by them ?

Gold (as bitcoin) has a problem, though, resulting from that feature that gives it value... as the inability to inflate the currency without energy expended in mining... both drives a lot of waste in mining... and still leaves a difficulty in preventing better management of the balance in the right amount of currency... to optimize the liquidity that a society requires to sustain optimal function.

Fiat facilitates a solution... as "more" without mining is no obstacle... even, as we see, that what "optimal' is quickly becomes what defines corruption.

But, as "more" without mining... also imposes corruption and fraud at the origin... and as that is unable to be checked for long, and then becomes impossible to remove, for fear of the great benefit of its failure, the evil thus enabled grows until it metastasizes and kills the cowardly and fearful or clueless society that tolerates it... "Cycles" thus worth noting... as providing only brief windows of opportunity in history that may foster real improvement in the human condition... which are usually squandered by substituting one band of thieves for another... or allowing the same band to extend their reign of corruption and oppression.

Gather up your garlic, your wooden stakes and silver bullets and keep them ready for those moments...

The core in the corruption... is in the narrow distribution of "more" to only a small cadre near the origin.

Hence, the Tenth Amendment argument in relation to monopoly in banking... being why crypto was born... and the reason the great conversation about money and value... but not values... and not the corruption born of concentration... began.

It is the monopoly in control of creation and distribution that fosters evil... INEVITABLY... which is reflected in my criticism that bitcoin seeks to unseat existing corruption at a weak moment... while re-enabling exactly the same problems under new management... because... "it's different this time"... and the problem is "you had the wrong team in charge"... not that there's a basic flaw in human character... or that the design of the system is flawed... specifically to facilitate and exploit that basic flaw in human character... by encouraging and enabling a monopoly in creation and concentration...

In parallel to the problem of monopoly in origin, is that which extends control into the entire network of distribution... centralizing control... by imposing monopoly over distribution. Rule makers and intermediaries... able to be corrupted by centralized origins in money... are not obviated as an issue by limiting the issuance.

Better money... has to be egalitarian money... to obviate the concentration problem in origin and distribution... to level the network to a peer to peer function that prevents concentration in origin, and the control of flows into a narrow distribution by design, when that is the source of the most problems. While obstructing concentration at the origin enables the elimination of one source of corruption... as apparent in those doing that now... it is no solution to only replace that problem with another exactly like it ? Include in the discussion... that an egalitarian design in distribution is no guard or guaranty against other forms of fraud...

The goal is not a universal and endless dilution of money so that by constant inflation it has no value... but a directly networked inflation potential... sufficient to prevent alternate imposition of control by concentration enabled under overly constrained money supply growth ? Instead, trying to obviate the problem of gold, that bitcoin makes worse (except for the absence of barriers to other entrants... ) by preventing growth in the base of currency... so that the concentrated origin paired with a lack of liquidity becomes ANOTHER inhibition to competition by self appointed "network gods"...

Distributed money... on a distributed network... is anti-fragile... but meaningless... if it merely replaces one set of problems from one source, for the same set of problems coming from another source... to the same end.

A currency that expanded... when required... as dollars having baby dimes... or bitcoin shedding a new fractional interest... still fails to address the concentration problem that spawns the sort of liquidity problems we have now...

The distribution of "more", to be egalitarian... has to go as a dividend to the owners... as a moral rather than economic issue... if and when any expansion is needed. And as no one gets ahead by virtue of more in any excess beyond what is required to enable greater liquidity... when there is not already a centrally imposed inequity ins distribution... ? Of course, that as a plan... does nothing to obstruct others corrupting the plan...

In the U.S., the problem cannot be resolved... without fixing what they broke in authorizing it... so, removing and replacing that with another plan... offers the best hope of fixing what's broke... and preventing it rapidly being broken again...

Don't have all the answers... maybe a few... but at least asking better questions than some others ?



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/25/2021 9:15:47 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217591
 
Following on Message 33255452

Option #3 sold out this morning in less than 15 minutes

about 3,000 folks bought in, totalling $12M, averaging 4K a throw

I was queued at 150,000+

assuming I was at middle of queue (random placement from waiting room set up 60 min before sale began, would mean 3000 folks bought what 300000 folks wanted

by popular demand, details on heretofore unplanned round #4 shall soon be announced

whilst zoom screen-sharing the process w/ my comrades and teachers, we came up with all sorts of ideas on how the token can be used in industry sectors

the future is very extremely bright for block-chain digital finance: real estate, music, art, insurance, re-insurance, crowd insurance (lloyds for the masses), goods certification, diplomas, etc etc prospective spouse, workers, experiential certification and tracking, etc etc

of the 10B tokens available in the genesis block, 16% has been publicly sold, rest all spoken for and assigned to private round investors, validators, workers, developer incentive carve-outs, and whatever

at 0.03 cents per token, the whole lot is ostensibly worth $300M

annual inflation (token supply by issuance of tokens to fund rollout etc etc developer etc etc on-boarding) systemically set at 6%

trading starts in 40 days, and even in 1 years hence only 60% public float, say $180M

given the utilities expected, teams standing by, on-boarding preps smoothed, perhaps 10X in 12 months as proof-of-pudding arise out of proof-of-stake defeating proof-of-work, and 50X by 36 months, and 100X by 2026-01-01 ($18B?) a tiny company. Maybe 180B? a proper company?

Or possibly a zero.

Let's watch casperlabs.io





cointelegraph.com



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/25/2021 9:51:07 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217591
 
the campaign plan is to earn some grub stake by way of initial staking, buying into the public trading at anything resembling sanity level, get capital out, and re-invest into same space, but perhaps away from infrastructure (i.e. block chain / internet anything) and into the industry-specific apps (i.e. insurance / amazon) and ancillaries (i.e. block-chain I-bank / Softbank etc etc)

believe there is time because it is all very early even as BTC at ~50K

either above is valid or the future for the planet is very dim

in which case buy gold

the tradable citizenship may not be so difficult to implement after all as folks can be enabled to swap tax domiciles, allowing freedom to reign supreme via tokenisation of everything

bloomberg.com

New York Times Sells NFT Column in an Auction for $560,000
Gerry Smith
26 March 2021, 03:14 GMT+8
The New York Times sold an article tied to an NFT, or nonfungible token, for about $560,000, another sign of the red-hot market for digital collectibles.

“Buy This Column on the Blockchain!” from Times journalist Kevin Roose was turned into an NFT and auctioned off on the open market, with the proceeds going to the newspaper’s Neediest Cases Fund, which supports charitable causes.

The actual subject of the column published Wednesday was NFTs, which carry certificates of authenticity proving that online works of art are unique. On Thursday, he tweeted that it had sold.

There’s been a boom in sales of NFTs. In March, a work by the digital artist Beeple sold for $69 million at Christie’s. NFTs are tied to digital ledgers such as blockchains and are difficult to fake.

“Why can’t a journalist join the NFT party, too?” Roose wrote in this column.

Times shares briefly rose on Roose’s tweet, a sign that some investors may have momentarily thought the publisher had discovered a lucrative new business.

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/29/2021 10:59:41 PM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation

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let's see how the Nigerian authorities bring BTC to heel :0)

thedechained.com

Nigerians Trade Over $100 Million Worth of Bitcoin on WeChat and Telegram Per Month

Nigeria is one of the largest crypto markets with about 50% of the overall Bitcoin trading volume in West Africa. This is not surprising especially in a country with a devalued currency and strict regulations surrounding the crypto industry. Following the Central bank’s ban on cryptocurrency, a local report claims that about $100 million of Bitcoin is traded weekly on social media.

In February, the central bank issued a directive that banned financial institutions in the country from providing their services for all crypto-related transactions in the country. Following the ban, Nigerians turned to P2P networks and other similar channels to maneuver through the ban.

A local news outlet has now reported that Bitcoin activities have increased despite the ban. The report revealed that crypto traders and investors are now switching to simpler channels to trade the leading crypto asset. Based on the outlet, more than $100 million worth of Bitcoin is traded on apps like WeChat and Telegram monthly.

Although the ban has hurt several crypto startups and exchanges, it seems to have driven wider adoption of Bitcoin in the country. Initially, the CBN’s directive was thought to be a blanket ban, but a senior CBN executive recently said that it exempts crypto trading. Nevertheless, Nigerians have turned away from larger exchanges to other simpler alternatives.

Nigerians Turn to Social Media Platforms to Trade BitcoinOne of the three major substitutes opted for are platforms like Luno, which records about $6 million transactions daily. The other notable alternative are P2P networks powered by leading crypto exchanges like Binance, Paxful with more than $18 million weekly transactions.

The most overlooked one, although informal, makes up a larger percentage of the overall trading volume in Nigeria. The transactions happen on social media platforms like Instagram, WhatsApp, Telegram etc.and involve either group trading or individual chats.

Although these methods are insecure and inefficient, they make up the bulk of crypto trading in Nigeria. Large Businesses are going through the stress of connecting with multiple vendors.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/29/2021 11:04:44 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217591
 
Let's watch the Indian authorities fail in their campaign against the rise of BTC

https://www.coindesk.com/indias-millennials-embrace-bitcoin

India’s Millennials Embrace Digital Gold Despite Proposed Bitcoin Ban
Mar 29, 2021 at 11:45 p.m.

Bitcoin might become for India’s millennials what gold is for their parents, no matter what the government says.

India, the fifth-largest nation by nominal GDP, often makes headlines for its attempts to outlaw crypto, real or rumored. But the government’s less-than-friendly attitude toward crypto has not curbed Indians’ curiosity about it.

Nor do rumors scare away the giants of the crypto world. Just last week, Coinbase announced it is planning to establish its presence in India. Another powerhouse, Binance, has been there since 2019 when it acquired India’s largest crypto exchange, WazirX.

India has a population of 1.4 billion people (the largest in the world after China) that is predominantly young (median age is between 28 and 29 years old) and tech savvy. Over the past few decades, India has become a developer hub for many tech projects around the world.

“India is one of the youngest countries in the world, and these 28- to 29-year-olds are people who want to be a part of the revolution,” said Indian crypto advocate and YouTube influencer Kashif Raza.

India also has the second-largest online population after China, with over half a billion users taking advantage of the cheapest internet in the world. According to the BBC, one gigabyte of mobile data costs $0.26 in India, compared with $12.37 in the U.S. and a global average of $8.53.

This means India has the potential to become “one of the largest crypto economies in the world,” said Mohammed Roshan, former chief scientist at the Unocoin exchange and now the CEO of GoSats, an app allowing people earn bitcoin (BTC, +3.54%) rewards while shopping online.

Yet, mixed signals sent by the authorities might be keeping some Indians from embracing bitcoin, experts told CoinDesk. India is 11th on Chainalysis’ 2020 report listing global crypto adoption by nation.

Indians’ excitement about crypto is visible, however. According to a report by Quartz, in 2018, one in every 10 bitcoin purchases in the world happened in India. The country is the second-largest source of web traffic to Paxful, a peer-to-peer bitcoin trading platform, after the U.S., according to SimilarWeb.

Last year gave a solid boost to Indians’ interest in crypto overall, Roshan said: “People who didn’t even really know about crypto are now talking about NFTs.”

Status of India’s Proposal to Ban Crypto
The Parliament of India is exploring a bill that prohibits all private cryptocurrencies in the country. Delta Exchange CEO Pankaj Balani provides a status update of India's crypto ban proposal.

Stocking up on digital gold
WazirX is the largest exchange in India, acquired by Binance in 2019, and it covers about half of the Indian crypto market. According to CEO Nischal Shetty, WazirX currently has 1.8 million users. Using that figure and the number of crypto app downloads in app stores and web traffic data, Shetty estimated there might be as many as 10 million users in India.

Most WazirX users just buy and hold, Shetty said. While 10% to 15% of the exchange’s customers are “heavy traders who trade every day,” not many use crypto as a vehicle for remittances. By Shetty’s estimate, in India about 1.5 million people are trading crypto while around 6 million are just holding it.

WazirX’s daily trading volume is about $55 million, according to CoinGecko, but has been fluctuating between $16 million and $141 million through the first quarter of 2020. The entire Indian market sees daily volumes of $150 million to $350 million, Shetty believes, and the total value of crypto assets held by Indians is hovering around $1.5 billion. Up to 55% of that might be in bitcoin, Shetty said. For many Indians, bitcoin is digital gold, i.e., a means of saving money.

Indians have a habit of accumulating actual gold as a savings tool, and it has strong cultural roots, said Kashif Raza.

“Indian culture always promoted savings. India has always been a huge holder of gold. Every family is keeping gold in their house,” he said.

When a couple gets married or a child is born, the family is often gifted with gold. That family wealth, in a form of jewelry, can be passed down to new generations.

But India has a history of prohibitive policies against foreign currency purchases, so the habit of saving money in dollars to hedge against inflation that’s popular in South America or Western Europe, doesn’t appear to be as widespread in India.

As Shruti Rajagopalan, a senior research fellow at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, wrote in an op-ed for Bloomberg, in the 1970s and 1980s, due to the regulation known as the License Raj, Indians could only hold foreign currency for a specific purpose after getting a permit from the central bank. The government would raid people’ houses to seize dollars and gold bars, she added.

Bitcoin is harder to control or confiscate, and it also provides a new way of earning money even when the mainstream economy is doing not so well, especially during the coronavirus pandemic year of 2020.

“Gold would be the investment of choice for the older generation. The young generation sees the advantage … to buy bitcoin, because gold became more stable and bitcoin is so fast-moving,” Shetty said.

Vijay Ayyar, head of business development at the crypto wallet Luno (a CoinDesk sister company), agreed, saying younger Indians view bitcoin as a better investment than gold.

The pandemic may have made crypto more popular. Many people stuck at home for months, some of whom lost their jobs, turned to alternative ways of earning money. Registrations on crypto exchanges went up, Raza said. According to Shetty, WazirX’s user count grew threefold since March 2020, and the trading volume went up by a factor of at least eight.

It also helps bitcoin’s popularity that people in India are closely following U.S. tech companies like PayPal and Tesla, which are embracing bitcoin.

“There is a heavy tech influence from the U.S. in India,” Shetty added.

Not just holding

Remittances might have been another big use case for crypto in India. India is the largest receiver of inward remittances globally, the World Bank found in 2018, with an inflow of $79 billion.

However, experts who spoke to CoinDesk said not many Indians are using crypto to send money across borders – at least, not yet. Roshan believes one of the reasons is because it’s usually younger Indians who are working abroad and sending money to their older relatives in India, and those relatives “might not know what to do with it.”

The regulatory uncertainty doesn’t help, said Sheth.

“If the government is going to come after it, why would I use it? The fact that the RBI [previously] basically prohibited banks from dealing with crypto put up a red flag for a lot of people,” he said.

However, the younger generation might be willing to use bitcoin in different ways, he said.

“Millennials, people past 25 to 26 years old, think of bitcoin as a long term investment. Gen Z people are more about spending. They say: We want to spend sats, we want to get rid of bank cards,” he said.

Mixed messages and the looming ban

In 2013, the first crypto exchange in India, Unocoin, was launched. A day later, the country’s central bank, the Reserve Bank of India (RBI), warned Indians about the risks of investing in cryptocurrencies. The regulator has been skeptical about crypto, even while encouraging India’s banks to experiment with blockchain.

In April 2018, the RBI barred India’s banks from serving crypto exchanges and related businesses. The country’s crypto industry immediately struck back, challenging the ban in court. In March 2020, India’s Supreme Court ruled against RBI and lifted the ban.

The Indian government started discussing possible crypto regulations back in 2017, but it only introduced a bill into the parliament this past January, which would ban cryptocurrencies except the one RBI might issue in the future. In addition, according to unconfirmed reports, the government might be considering banning and blocking IP addresses associated with crypto exchanges.

At the same time, a reassuring signal came from the minister of finance and corporate affairs, Nirmala Sitharaman, who said on March 15 the government is “ not shutting all options.”

“We will allow certain windows for people to do experiments on the blockchain, bitcoins or cryptocurrency,” Sitharaman said.

In addition, the government has its eyes on companies that might be using crypto. On March 25, the Ministry of Corporate Affairs announced businesses will have to report crypto on their balance sheets starting April 1.

The regulator is also actively exploring the possibility of issuing a central bank digital currency, or CBDC, backed by the Indian rupee.

India’s crypto industry does not believe the government will ban crypto. A full ban might hurt not only crypto users but quite a few businesses. In a November 2020 RBI Bulletin, the central bank said there were 342 crypto products and services in India.

WazirX’s Shetty believes things are looking up.

“The bill is a step forward. At least, the government is talking about crypto and the regulation. As an industry we’re doing a number of things to make sure the government understands what this new technology is,” he said.

For crypto services, the regulation means access to banking (because so far only a handful of banks catering to crypto businesses) and clearing the industry of scams.

Talks about the possible crypto ban “caused some panic in the market for sure,” Luno’s Ayyar said, so the market might cool down in the coming months due to the uncertainty.

However, “the finance minister seemed quite positive about ensuring that innovation does not get trampled and hence the industry is in general hopeful of a positive outcome overall,” he added.

Sheth said he believes things might go either way.

“The government may take a very harsh action against cryptocurrency. But there is not much consistency inside the government about that, seems like there are conflicting perspectives about it inside the government,” he said.

He added that because of that inconsistency, it’s very hard to predict what will happen next.

“Even people who talk to government officials don’t know much,” he said. But he expects the regulators most likely will adapt to the new reality and choose to ban only payments in crypto (which means, using it as money that competes with the national currency) and oblige people to report crypto gains for their taxes.

At the end of the day, most crypto exchanges in India have two entities, one in India and one abroad, so if things turn hostile at home they can easily move operations out, Raza and Roshan told CoinDesk. Popular jurisdictions include Singapore, the UAE and Estonia.

In the meantime, scary rumors of the future crypto ban only piques people’s curiosity, Sheth said. “The rumored ban is stimulating a lot of conversation among the population about cryptocurrency,” he said, adding:


“Anecdotally, everyone I know in India is curious about getting exposure to bitcoin.”



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)3/31/2021 12:49:37 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217591
 
the genesis of casper discussion started on reddit

reddit.com

good energy

can feel a sense of the Force



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (169881)4/18/2021 8:05:25 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217591
 
Re <<"gas" cost>>

am learning about gas in the context of Casper



kb.myetherwallet.com



What is Gas?6 min read


Introduction
The Ethereum blockchain is a network. Ether (ETH) is the fuel for that network. When you send tokens, interact with a contract, send ETH or ERC20 tokens, or do anything else on the blockchain, you must pay for that computation. That payment is calculated in gas, and gas is always paid in ETH.

You are paying for the computation, regardless of whether your transaction succeeds or fails. Even if it fails, the miners must validate and execute your transaction, which takes computational power. You must pay for that computation just like you would pay for a successful transaction.

You can see your transaction fee (gas limit * gas price) in ETH & USD when you search for your transaction on Etherscan.io. This is not a fee that MyEtherWallet (MEW), or any other service provider, receives. This fee is paid to the remote miners for mining transactions, putting them into blocks, and securing the blockchain.

Overview
When you hear the term ‘gas’, the person speaking is either talking about:

Gas LimitGas PriceThe total cost of a transaction (the “transaction fee”) is the Gas Limit * Gas Price.

You can think of the gas limit as the total amount of liters/gallons/units of gas a car can hold.

You can think of the gas price as the cost of that liter/gallon/unit of gas.

With a car, it’s dollars (price) per gallon (unit).With Ethereum, it’s GWEI (price) per gas (unit).So let’s say you want to fill up your 10 gallon tank.
It would take 10 gallons of gas, at $2.50 each. That total would come out to $25.

Likewise, fulfilling a gas limit of 21000 means filling 21000 units of gas.
If each unit is set at 20 GWEI, your total would come out to 0.00042.

Therefore, the total transaction fee in this scenario would be 0.00042 ETH.

Sending tokens will typically take a bit more gas than sending ETH, so we generally recommend having 0.1 ETH for 2 - 3 token transactions.

You can use our tool to calculate GWEI <-> WEI <-> USD here, which can be helpful when you want to know your transaction fee in ETH, rather than GWEI.

Gas Limit
The gas limit is called the limit because it’s the maximum amount of units of gas you are willing to spend on a transaction. This avoids situations where there is an error somewhere in a contract, and you end up spending 1 ETH, then 10 ETH, and then 1000 ETH, going in circles but arriving no where.

However, the units of gas necessary for a transaction are already defined by how much code is executed on the blockchain. If you do not want to spend as much on gas, lowering the gas limit won’t help much. You must include enough gas to cover the computational resources you use or your transaction will fail due to an ‘Out of Gas’ error.

All unused gas never leaves your wallet. So if you go to MyEtherWallet, send 1 ETH to our donation address, and use a gas limit of 400000, you will receive 400000 - 21000* = 379000 back. However, if you were sending 1 ETH to a contract, and your transaction to the contract fails, you will use the entire 400000 and receive nothing back.

*21000 is the standard gas limit for regular transactions.

Gas Price
If you want to spend less on a transaction, you can do so by lowering the amount you pay per unit of gas. The price you pay for each unit increases or decreases how quickly your transaction will be mined.

Will increasing the gas price get it mined faster? Does setting a low gas price mean it won’t ever be mined?
The transaction fees go to the miner who mines your block. When miners mine a block, they have to decide which transactions to include. They can choose to include no transactions, or they can choose to randomly select transactions. In order to encourage miners to include transactions in blocks you want to set a ‘gas price’ that is high enough to make them want to include it (since it is entirely up to them).

Most miners follow a very simple strategy for inclusion. They include transactions they received sorted from highest gas price to lowest, then include them until either the block is full, or they reach one that has a gas price set lower than they are willing to bother with.

You want to set the gas price high enough so that a miner includes your transaction in a block. If you are in a hurry, you can set the gas price even higher, so that you jump ahead of everyone in line.

If you are not in a hurry, you just need to set a number high enough so that someone eventually includes your transaction.

Why should I set a low gas price?
Because it’s cheaper, and because with the increasing price of ETH (compared to USD), a transaction that used to cost half a cent, may now cost a few cents.

More expensive transactions, like interacting with certain Dapps, can now cost a dollar or more! As a user, you should try sending non-urgent transactions with a lower gas price as the more transactions that occur at the lower gas price, the more likely miners will lower their minimums.

Where can I see what miners are accepting?
Start here, at EthGasStation.

EthGasStation’s Calculator will let you estimate how long it will be before your transaction is accepted at a specific gas price.