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To: i-node who wrote (198304)	4/8/2021 7:56:10 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356842

The chance for an acquittal hinges on whether the jury can be shown that the medical details are beyond the expected awareness of a police officer. I've thought for some time the appropriate crime is negligent homicide at worst.

To: i-node who wrote (198304)	4/9/2021 7:52:12 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 356842

The chance for an acquittal hinges on whether the jury can be shown that the medical details are beyond the expected awareness of a police officer. I think that ship has sailed. Chauvin was improvising with that hold. The long parade of cops including training officials, Chauvin's supervisor, the most senior cop on the force, and the chief of police testified that what he did was not taught as a way to control a subject and would be considered to be lethal force even if it were allowed and the situation did not call for lethal force. They all testified that cops are taught that being prone and in handcuffs for more than absolutely necessary is dangerous because it impairs breathing. All of them, over and over, they drummed it into the jury. (It had never occurred to me that being handcuffed behind the back was a factor in breathing.) Also in the testimony were several bits about the application of pain. In one, a training official talked a lot about techniques for the intentional infliction of pain to get compliance--can't recall the term they used--and some techniques for doing that with the hand. Another witness called to the jury's attention a visual of Floyd's and Chauvin's hands where that was happening when Floyd had long been on the ground, the point being that pain was being inflicted at that point solely to cause pain, not to obtain control. I would not be surprised if the prosecution gets around to developing a piece on animus towards Floyd as a factor in his killing, which can take you from mere careless disregard for his life to something else. We shall see how that plays out.