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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (198581)4/11/2021 4:36:52 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 363035
 
Correct. As mentioned, a mere ministerial process.

By Pence. By state officials, not so. They are administrators of their processes, sworn officials responsible for achieving a certifiable result. You are calling them incompetent or corrupt if you claim that what they certify is not accurate. They should be charged with something. No?



To: i-node who wrote (198581)4/11/2021 5:18:10 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 363035
 
If it is known that an election is stolen, (let's say, it is conspicuous), does certification make it credible? Or righteous? Or immutable?

(Three distinct questions).


Forgot to address this.

I think it's righteous, absolutely. The legal process was followed. We are a nation of laws, after all. Immutable is interesting. I would think so because it is fait accompli or settled or some such. I cannot imagine what the remedy might be. Credible is a bit tricky. Credibility is vested in the observer, not the fact. Lots of people don't find it credible. They are mistaken but that's beside the point per the definition. So, I would say it's credible adjacent. Civilized people ignore certain things at the margins like when everyone pretends that Aunt Sally didn't make a rude noise. We treat it as credible because citizenship so requires.