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To: carranza2 who wrote (170744)4/19/2021 8:27:43 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217656
 
Just in in-tray, and reckon folks might just be able to escape tyranny by engaging with a joke in attempt at marking the top. Let's see if I get lucky.

On 20 Apr 2021, at 8:21 AM, P wrote:

So What the Hell is Dogecoin?
Honestly, I have no idea. It’s now the 6th largest digital asset by market cap, even though it started off as a purposeful joke (really, read the history) and there doesn’t seem to be a single reason to own or use DOGE.
That said, at this point, I’ve learned to be open-minded about EVERYTHING rather than laugh and dismiss. Unlike pass-thru tokens and asset-backed tokens, which actually accrue real economic value to token holders via revenues and utility, cryptocurrencies (including Bitcoin) exist solely to protect purchasing power and to transact in a fast, cheap and trustless manner without a financial intermediary (like a bank or brokerage). And even though Bitcoin has hundreds of other traits that are superior to DOGE and every other cryptocurrency (security, developers, history via longest chain, infrastructure, brand, wallet dispersion, decentralization, etc), at their core, they are still simply belief systems -- so if a handful of crazy people want to will DOGE into the mainstream, who are we to stop them? With exceptionally high interest on social media, spurred somewhat by Elon Musk’s regular and mysterious DOGE tweets, DOGE has become the 2nd most popular cryptocurrency on Twitter, accounting for 23.2% of total crypto tweets.
So will DOGE actually succeed? There is almost no chance that it does. But, for all you math majors out there, one minus almost no chance equals some small chance. And the market is telling you what that chance is. The total market cap of all tokens in the cryptocurrency sub-asset class is $1.25 trillion, of which Bitcoin makes up $1.07 trillion (or 86%). Dogecoin is $43 billion, representing 3.4% of the total digital currency market cap. So the market is basically pricing in DOGE’s odds of succeeding at 3.4% (with XRP, LTC, XLM, BCH, etc priced with slightly greater than 10% chance, combined). Now, those odds seem way too high to anyone who studies blockchain usage, but again, this market has taught us not to bet against underdogs. One can look at Gamestop (GME) for proof that social investing is often more powerful than fundamentals. Essentially, these other cryptocurrencies are perpetual call options with infinite time to expiration, a 0 risk-free rate, and high volatility… which makes them attractive long-tail options.
Somewhat surprisingly, there really isn’t much of a buzz about COIN in the traditional debt and equity world (perhaps that’s because the sell-side is too busy counting losses from the Archegos blowup to focus on actual profits from financial institutions). By foregoing the traditional IPO in favor of a direct listing, the market lacks an underwriter selling this to institutional investors, and without a roadshow or underwritten process, it’s just not on every investor’s radar yet. And we don’t have a lot of public data to suggest how direct listings of well known companies will trade -- Spotify (SPOT) traded straight up in 2018 while Slack (WORK) shot up and then traded down for the next six months in 2019. There is a good chance COIN could take some time before finding a real market base.





Cheers



P

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From: Arca < digest@ar.ca>
Date: Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 5:03 PM
Subject: "That's Our Two Satoshis"
To: P


BLOCKCHAIN INSIGHT & ANALYSIS FOR SOPHISTICATED INVESTORS

What the Hell is Dogecoin?

Optionality and Free Markets

That's Our Two Satoshis

Week-over-Week Price Changes (as of Sunday, 4/18/21)









Wait, DogeCoin Drove The Market Higher?
Before we get to one of the craziest and swiftest weekend selloffs on record, we have to talk about cryptocurrencies. Contrary to popular belief, currencies are just one of many sub-sectors in the digital assets market, but it just so happens to be the largest and most well known due solely to Bitcoin’s inclusion in this sub-sector. Most of the other legacy currencies from 2017 (XRP, XLM, BCH, BSV, LTC) have not found anywhere near the audience Bitcoin has, or anywhere close to the traction DeFi, Web 3 and other sub-sectors have. Yet these assets continue to boast large market caps due simply to their growth and popularity amidst traders long before other digital assets existed, and before anyone knew or understood how to value digital assets. Normally, as Bitcoin goes, so do the other currencies, but last week was a bit of an anomaly. The Currency sub-sector gained +7% week-over-week, while Bitcoin itself was -6%.

Dogecoin (DOGE) drove these gains, with a staggering +374% week-over-week move, rising to a $43 billion market cap. And many other currencies followed suit in what can only be described as a knee-jerk reaction to the gains in DOGE. A trader likely logged into Robinhood (where DOGE trades), saw huge outsized gains in DOGE, and immediately snap bought the only other tokens from the limited pool of assets available on the Robinhood app -- causing large gains in LTC, BSV, BCH and ETC as well. And just like that, you have a Bitcoin-less rally, while the efficient market hypothesis gets thrown out the window because different buyer bases have different access to different tokens depending on which venue they trade.








Source: Messari

So What the Hell is Dogecoin?
Honestly, I have no idea. It’s now the 6th largest digital asset by market cap, even though it started off as a purposeful joke (really, read the history) and there doesn’t seem to be a single reason to own or use DOGE. That said, at this point, I’ve learned to be open-minded about EVERYTHING rather than laugh and dismiss. Unlike pass-thru tokens and asset-backed tokens, which actually accrue real economic value to token holders via revenues and utility, cryptocurrencies (including Bitcoin) exist solely to protect purchasing power and to transact in a fast, cheap and trustless manner without a financial intermediary (like a bank or brokerage). And even though Bitcoin has hundreds of other traits that are superior to DOGE and every other cryptocurrency (security, developers, history via longest chain, infrastructure, brand, wallet dispersion, decentralization, etc), at their core, they are still simply belief systems -- so if a handful of crazy people want to will DOGE into the mainstream, who are we to stop them? With exceptionally high interest on social media, spurred somewhat by Elon Musk’s regular and mysterious DOGE tweets, DOGE has become the 2nd most popular cryptocurrency on Twitter, accounting for 23.2% of total crypto tweets.

Somewhat surprisingly, there really isn’t much of a buzz about COIN in the traditional debt and equity world (perhaps that’s because the sell-side is too busy counting losses from the Archegos blowup to focus on actual profits from financial institutions). By foregoing the traditional IPO in favor of a direct listing, the market lacks an underwriter selling this to institutional investors, and without a roadshow or underwritten process, it’s just not on every investor’s radar yet. And we don’t have a lot of public data to suggest how direct listings of well known companies will trade -- Spotify (SPOT) traded straight up in 2018 while Slack (WORK) shot up and then traded down for the next six months in 2019. There is a good chance COIN could take some time before finding a real market base.







So will DOGE actually succeed? There is almost no chance that it does. But, for all you math majors out there, one minus almost no chance equals some small chance. And the market is telling you what that chance is. The total market cap of all tokens in the cryptocurrency sub-asset class is $1.25 trillion, of which Bitcoin makes up $1.07 trillion (or 86%). Dogecoin is $43 billion, representing 3.4% of the total digital currency market cap. So the market is basically pricing in DOGE’s odds of succeeding at 3.4% (with XRP, LTC, XLM, BCH, etc priced with slightly greater than 10% chance, combined). Now, those odds seem way too high to anyone who studies blockchain usage, but again, this market has taught us not to bet against underdogs. One can look at Gamestop (GME) for proof that social investing is often more powerful than fundamentals. Essentially, these other cryptocurrencies are perpetual call options with infinite time to expiration, a 0 risk-free rate, and high volatility… which makes them attractive long-tail options.


Continue Reading About Crypto Optionality





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To: carranza2 who wrote (170744)4/20/2021 8:28:22 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217656
 
resident thread legal expert ... the democratic mob is mounting an insurrection :0)

forkast.news

12,600 XRP holders demand their day in court in SEC v. Ripple lawsuit

Michelle Lim

Image: Envato ElementsPotentially moving the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission lawsuit against Ripple Labs in a new direction, XRP holders have filed a motion to intervene in the litigation as a third-party defendant.

According to a new legal filing submitted by Rhode Island-based attorney John Deaton on behalf of XRP holders on April 19, XRP users, investors, holders and developers as well as content providers and small businesses that utilize the digital asset XRP and the XRP Ledger “have a significant interest in the property at issue in this enforcement action.”

More than 12,600 XRP holders have contacted Deaton seeking to join the intervention, according to the document. XRP holders are seeking to participatein the lawsuit as a third-party defendant to protect their interests, and are not asserting any claims or counterclaims against the SEC.

“There was never one phrase in the mountain of pages the SEC has filed since December 22, 2020 that showed one bit of consideration for the retail investors they are supposed to be defending by their every enforcement action,” Deaton wrote in a blog post.

“When we asked the court to hear our voice, the SEC scoffed and insulted us in their formal response, saying that all of us who suffered collateral damage from their ill-conceived lawsuit should remain silent,” Deaton added. “Without our intervention, we are without a voice in a debate of great stakes for us and the holders of all digital assets in the United States.”

See related article: Lawyer for 11,000 XRP holders pushing to fight SEC in Ripple lawsuit

Is XRP a ‘security’?
The SEC filed a lawsuit against Ripple in December, alleging that its sale of XRP was an unregistered securities offering worth over US$1.38 billion. The SEC also named Ripple’s executive chairman Chris Larsen and CEO Brad Garlinghouse as co-defendants for allegedly aiding and abetting Ripple’s violations and making US$600 million in personal profits from their unregistered sales of XRP. According to legal filings earlier this month, Garlinghouse and Larsen are seeking to have the charges against them dropped.

At the heart of the lawsuit is whether transactions involving XRP constitute “investment contracts” and therefore securities subject to registration under Section 5 of the Securities Act of 1933.

The SEC has alleged that XRP is a security under the Howey’s test — the legal basis for determining whether a financial product should be deemed a security. “Ripple publicly offered and sold XRP as an investment into a common enterprise that included Ripple’s promises to undertake significant entrepreneurial and managerial efforts, including to create a liquid market for XRP, which would in turn increase demand for XRP and therefore its price,” according to the SEC’s amended complaint.

Ripple has counter-argued that the Howey’s test does not apply, as XRP was sold as an asset and is not a security. In an earlier 93-page court filing, Ripple also asserts that XRP “is not a security and the SEC has no authority to regulate it as one.

See related article: No Ripple-SEC lawsuit settlement in sight as XRP prices tumble

The price of XRP, which was the third-largest largest cryptocurrency in the world by market value prior to the SEC’s enforcement action against Ripple, plummeted by more than 60% following the SEC’s lawsuit and subsequent suspension of XRP trading on U.S. cryptocurrency exchanges. XRP has remained popular in parts of Asia, however, and is now ranked fourth, with a total market value of US$58 billion. XRP is currently trading at US$1.27 as of publishing time, an increase of over 400% since the start of the year.

The SEC’s lawsuit against Ripple is being closely watched by the XRP community and the cryptocurrency industry not only because of its potential impact on XRP investors, but also the legal precedent it could set for other cryptocurrencies.

See related article: Ripple: SEC did not give fair notice that XRP violated law

Deaton’s latest filing follows the decision by U.S. District Court Judge Analisa Torres in March granting the request by XRP holders to file a motion to intervene in the SEC lawsuit against Ripple. The SEC had tried, unsuccessfully, to block the XRP holders’ bid to intervene on the grounds of statutory and sovereign immunity.

This week’s filing is Deaton’s second attempt at filing a motion to intervene on behalf of XRP holders. His first motion had been rejected because he had failed to submit a pre-motion letter in accordance with Judge Torres’ court rules.

See related article: SEC tries to block XRP holders’ bid to intervene in Ripple lawsuit

Why intervention by XRP holders matters
Deaton has argued that XRP holders have to intervene as neither the SEC — the very agency supposed to protect investor interests — nor Ripple — which has no ethical responsibility to XRP holders — are representing their interests.

“By failing to distinguish specific prior sales and distributions by Ripple from present- day XRP, the SEC has put the property of XRP Holders at the heart of this case and positions its interest at the complete opposite end of the spectrum from that of XRP Holders,” Deaton wrote in the memorandum of law filed in support of the motion to intervene. “Without intervention, the SEC can continue to manipulate the role of XRP Holders to fit its narrative against Ripple and its two executives and potentially destroy the property interests of XRP Holders.”

Deaton also took aim at the SEC’s attempt to meet the common enterprise prong embodied in the Howey test, arguing: “the SEC absurdly claims that because ‘XRP investors stand to profit equally if XRP’s popularity and price increase,’ all XRP Holders entered into a common enterprise with Ripple. This claim is ridiculous because the same statement equally applies to Bitcoin, Ether, XRP, or even gold or silver investors.”

“The language utilized by the SEC in the Complaint is both reckless and dangerous as it could be applied not only to every cryptocurrency but every commodity,” Deaton added.

The SEC would have the authority to regulate a vast number of non-parties, including digital asset exchanges, developers, vendors, ordinary users and retail holders of XRP if it was successful in its claims against XRP, Denton wrote. “This would dramatically affect the entire secondary retail market for XRP and possibly, all of cryptocurrency.”

See related article: XRP holders seek to join Ripple in fighting SEC lawsuit

“The law is well settled that if there is no investment intent a transaction does not fall within the scope of the securities laws,” Deaton wrote. “Clearly, the SEC is either unaware of XRP Holders’ use of XRP or they are choosing to ignore such use for litigation reasons.”

From 2013 to present, XRP Holders have been using XRP and the XRPL for purposes such as for everyday payments, collateral for loans and bridge currency to transfer assets between exchanges.

“The absurdity and arrogance of this unrestrained, out-of-control regulator’s claims could not be further from the truth,” said Deaton, in his blog post. “Their logic could only be sustained if the SEC was able to suppress any XRP retail holder from speaking up and telling our stories of how we use this digital currency in a variety of ways.”

See related article: Ripple partners with Novatti to use XRP for remittances in Asia Pacific

Ripple and SEC continue to battle over discovery
Aside from XRP holders’ bid to join as a third party, the SEC’s lawsuit against Ripple is currently in its discovery phase, with the two sides now battling over what information they need to share with the other side.

Last week, Ripple’s lawyers filed a letter asking U.S. Magistrate Judge Sarah Netburn to stop the SEC from using Memoranda of Understanding (“MOU”) with foreign regulators to obtain information on Ripple and XRP.

“The MOU process involves a foreign securities regulator in the discovery process, which has a significant impact on the recipient of the requests, including Ripple’s overseas business partners, and amounts to an unwarranted intimidation tactic,” the lawyers wrote.

See related article: Ripple accuses SEC of ‘intimidation tactic’ in seeking XRP info overseas

In two separate rulings earlier this month, Judge Netburn rejected the SEC’s demand for up to eight years of Garlinghouse and Larsen’s personal financial information, and granted Ripple access to the SEC’s communications with third parties regarding Bitcoin, Ether and XRP.

Michelle is a Producer at Forkast. Prior to joining the team, she wrote for CNN and served with the Singapore Foreign Service. She holds a Master of Journalism from the University of Hong Kong and a Bachelor of Business Administration from the National University of Singapore.



To: carranza2 who wrote (170744)4/22/2021 6:40:37 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217656
 
'They' are trying to scare us with a different angle, which might provide a nice buying moment

(1) Folks may have to sell in their existing wallet(s) that have been compromised by trails left through transactions
(2) Set up multiple / pristine wallets on different exchanges
(3) Re-purchase BTCs and take into different / pristine wallets
(4) Take BTCs so freshly acquired into cold wallets, and hide the wallets
(5) Stop trading BTCs, and hold for the true long term

bloomberg.com

Bitcoin Retreats to Weekend’s Flash Crash Lows Amid Tax Anxiety
Vildana Hajric
23 April 2021, 05:34 GMT+8
Bitcoin declined for the sixth time in seven days, extending losses after President Joe Biden was said to propose almost doubling the capital-gains tax for the wealthy.

The slide pushed Bitcoin down as much as 8% to about $50,500, sending it below the low of $51,707 reached Sunday. The coin had tumbled as much as 15% over the weekend in the wake of a false report from an anonymous Twitter account that the U.S. Treasury was cracking down on crypto money laundering.

“One of the biggest things you have to worry about is that the things with the biggest gains are going to be most susceptible to selling,” said Matt Maley, chief market strategist for Miller Tabak + Co. “It doesn’t mean people will dump wholesale, dump 100% of their positions, but you have some people who have huge money in this and, therefore, a big jump in the capital gains tax, they’ll be leaving a lot of money on the table.”



Read more: Wall Street Starts to See Weakness Emerge in Bitcoin Charts

U.S. investors in the digital asset, which has advanced about 80% since December, already face a capital-gains tax if they sell the cryptocurrency after holding it for more than a year. But the coin’s been one of the best-performing assets in recent years -- anyone who bought a year ago is sitting on a 625% gain. For investors who bought in April 2019, that gain equals roughly 860%.

The IRS has stepped up enforcement of tax collection on crypto sales. The agency -- which began asking crypto users to disclose transactions on their 2019 individual tax returns -- asks taxpayers whether they “received, sold, sent, exchanged or otherwise acquired any financial interest in any digital currency.”

The nervousness among the crypto crowd can be seen in another rash of speculative tweets that popped up, just days after the earlier-debunked conjecture sent the market spiraling.

To be sure, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen would very unlikely be taking the lead role for the administration when it comes to proposing policies, if that makes anyone feel better.

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