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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (472854)	5/3/2021 8:15:37 PM
From: epicure	2 Recommendations Recommended By Cautious_Optimist Tom Daly Respond to of 542114

I'm a socialist but I believe in business. You can be for both- look at the Scandi countries. They manage just fine.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (472854)	5/4/2021 11:25:19 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542114

You say you are not a socialist, and because you are a millionaire you are a capitalist. And somehow this precludes you from wanting fiscal policies that benefit society? That makes no sense to me. We are all capitalists, and I think you are misunderstanding what a socialist is in a democracy. America cannot be a socialist country. That is impossible. What people call socialism, is really nothing more than an enhancement of the social welfare system to help the people who need help and therefore better our society. And I don't see how being a millionaire would make one not want to help the people who need help, and help to make the society healthier and happier, even if is means raising taxes. I would think an old millionaire would not mind raising taxes as much as people less fortunate!? << Wharf: I own property and have both an IRA and a 401. I also have a multi-million dollar business on my property, so I'm a capitalist.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (472854)	5/5/2021 10:44:57 AM
From: cosmicforce	1 Recommendation Recommended By abuelita Respond to of 542114

>>capitalist Arguable - maybe a baby capitalist. Not sure that the term is particularly diagnostic of a moral, social or a political mindset. My conspicuous consuming neighbor (with high-end sports cars and good intentions) tried to talk my wife out of using a low water landscaping based upon his assessments of the costs - arguing that amortizing over a decade - it wasn't really cheaper. Clearly the environmental impacts of 100,000 people not saving water in an arid environment didn't hit his spreadsheet - just the hard dollars we would have to spend personally "should be" the only consideration. That is capitalism - typically with a complete blindness to any risk management of resources (or any off-balance-sheet risk for that matter). I suspect the business operated on your property won't leave the land depleted and scarred for millennia, with the wildlife exterminated. If it did and you didn't care - you'd be a full-blown capitalist.