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To: Jamie153 who wrote (1651)5/13/2021 5:06:53 PM
From: Les H1 Recommendation

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Nobody justified invading Iraq. Nobody can justify invading Syria and Libya using terrorist groups as advance mercenary forces either. There is no conspiracy theory. It was admitted in the 2012 DIA report and Operation Timber Sycamore in official reports as well as news reports of NATO special forces embedded in with the terrorist groups and training camps run by the US and its allies in Jordan, Qatar, and Eastern Libya. How do you think US jets can launch precision laser-guided missiles to provide air support for the militias if special forces with targeting laster aren't embedded in these groups?

What was done in Iraq immediately led to the actions in Syria and Libya. As I explained and Obama had confesses, they circumvented conventional means of invading a country because it would've required seeking legal authorization they could not obtain.

I don't think it makes any difference which party is in power. A lot of these conflicts, such as Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. were planned many years in advance and measures were implemented under different administrations and Congress controlled by different parties. It doesn't matter where one is neoliberal or neoconservative in my book.



To: Jamie153 who wrote (1651)5/13/2021 5:46:17 PM
From: Les H  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12184
 
The war didn't end with the surge. Paetreus arranged for Baghdad to pay the Sunni tribes monthly salaries to lay down their arms. That was never going to last. After the SOFU agreement ended in 2011, the US forces had to leave. Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri al-Malaki soon ended the practice of paying the Sunnis. In the following year, there were multiple prison breaks where thousands of Sunni resistance fighters escaped. This was called the Breaking The Walls Campaign. There was some suspicion that foreign intelligence services were involved in these prison breakouts since they were staging diversionary attacks at one part of the prison and releasing the prisoners after the guards were engaged in combat. If you google the events in 2012, you'll find that they changed their name to Islamic State to show their allegiance with the Islamic State in Syria.

The underlying problem with the invasion of Iraq and trying to maintain a viable country for all groups was the Sunnis were left without any economically viable territory since the oil wells were predominantly in Shia and Kurdish territory.

One of the goals of the war against Syria was to carve out a self-sufficient enclave from both Iraq and Syria with Sunni and Kurdish populations which could be used against Shia interests. The US essentially took all the productive farmland and land-based oil wells from the Syrian government.