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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (202801)	6/21/2021 8:07:41 PM
From: CentralParkRanger	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 362315

I remember this from our previous discussions - you tend to argue about words, not about substance. You keep forgetting that privilege is relative and defined in comparison. You define privilege as "above the norm". I define privilege as "above the others". We may stay with our definitions, but I think if some people treated better than others, it's a privilege, regardless whether it's a norm or not. If they treated better because of their white skin color, it a white privilege.

To: Lane3 who wrote (202801)	6/22/2021 1:19:23 AM
From: epicure	1 Recommendation Recommended By CentralParkRanger Respond to of 362315

Ah- it has nothing to do, really, with "level of service"- it has everything to do with "quality of life". White "privilege" doesn't mean every restaurant meal is 4 star- but it does mean you get to go through life never being penalized for the color of your skin. You seem really hung up on protecting the word privilege without it's "white" adjective. WHITE privilege is the ability of white people to go through the world with white glasses on and never see things from the perspective of people of color. That world can be quite "ordinary" seeming, but only because white people are so used to not being treated like black people. Privilege, by itself, is different than white privilege. White privilege allows you to say things like, "I don't see color"- lol, you don't see it because you don't have to. White privilege let's you say things like, "Blacks and whites have it the same now." (Or, God forbid, that they have it "better".) It takes a position of privileged ignorance to say things like that. It is a privilege not to have to worry about your skin color and what that might mean when you interact with anyone else- from medical personnel to the police. There really is no other word for it than privilege.

To: Lane3 who wrote (202801)	6/22/2021 1:44:05 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 362315

>> The problem is not that Whites are treated well but that Blacks are treated badly. Really? Where do you see that? For example, when Blacks receive special treatment when seeking financing through SBA? Or when "Black Farmers" receive $4 Billion in debt relief while white farmers get nothing? Just because black farmers are black? That kind of "White Privilege"? Or when moderately performing black students receive placement ahead of well-performing white students in universities? Or when Barack Obama -- a poor quality lawyer -- is given the editorship of the Harvard Law Review while never having published a single scholarly article in it? Do you think it is white privilege that yields all those athletics scholarships for black athletes? Is it white privilege that allows black men to loot the Gucci store in NYC while white men who steal are prosecuted? Same applies to setting fires and other crimes? You just have to know how absurd the claim of white privilege is. For there to be "white privilege" you have to show there privilege first and you cannot do that. And of course, here's where the left drags out the, "Well obviously there is white privilege. Just look around you." And I look around me and just spout off 50 more examples of black privilege. I don't now who has the ever-so-slight privilege at this moment. I would say OJ Simpson had some damned seriously black privilege, wouldn't you? Only blacks can threaten voters with baseball bats and have the Attorney General of the United States say, "Nothing to see here!" Only a black person can rationalize voting for a president because he is black. That's privilege. So, how about how all this fits in with your notion of white privilege?