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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (202834)6/22/2021 1:05:56 PM
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I think you expressed the error in your philosophy perfectly in that comment when you referred to what "everybody is owed". No one is "owed" anything. That's where we transitioned from a "hand-up" to a "hand-out".

If one tried to establish a debt, something "owed", to another generation, there is not anyway to do that.


I'm sure that made the point that there's no clean way to pay it back but don't confuse that with nothing being owed. Debt that cannot be properly repaid is still debt. What you call an error in my philosophy is, instead, that your refusal to acknowledge what was taken.

I don't know who convinced you there is a debt. There isn't. Humans and other species alike have first a debt to take care of their own needs, and in the case of humans, the needs of their own families.

That's no excuse. That you owe a half million on your house, a critical debt, does not mean that you don't also owe your overdue library fines.


We have tried. Every conceivable social program and welfare cliff has been established.


Like I said, there is no clean way. We have had lots of imperfect attempts including some that may not have worked and some that may have even made things worse. Maybe there's no effective way. The debt may not be effectively repayable. But, even if that is so, it doesn't mean that there is no debt.

The very least you can do is to acknowledge that opportunity was stolen and that leaves a deficit rather than insisting that it's all their own fault. At least award the dignity of an acknowledgement.



To: i-node who wrote (202834)6/22/2021 4:22:40 PM
From: combjelly  Respond to of 362493
 
Wait a second. I thought you liked to cite MLK and his approach to race relations. And King rather famously said "we are coming for our checks!". Now granted, he thought poor whites were due reparations because they suffered under the same systems that exploited blacks.