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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (7653)	6/24/2021 9:35:25 PM
From: robert b furman	Respond to of 8753

Hi Bernie, It IS a longer term plan. I did raised bed gardens as the soil here was all small gravel. I've added cement sand , sand with very small stones. Peat moss and black cow composted cow manure, and garden soil for years now. The good news is the yield continually grows. It does cost money, but it is worth it. We only live so long you know! LOL Leave your place a better place for the next guy - its a boy scout thing LOL Hoping your starter garden is productive, my bet is it will be! We had a nice rain today - perfect! Bob

To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (7653)	7/1/2021 7:24:03 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8753

If you manage to eradicate the gout weed, I will want to know. The previous owner had it everywhere and I tried everything short of napalm bombing and failed. I once dugout a 3 foot strip, got rid of every gout weed, put black plastic on the top of it, and they mushroomed under the plastic. The only thing that sort of worked was when I dug out the ground, cleaned it out and instead of black plastic put in a raised flowerbed with weedmat under it. In that case they crawled under the flowerbed to the other side. The weed is at the border with my neighbour. For some reason it doesn't spread deep into his land and keeps growing into mine.