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To: Lane3 who wrote (204434)	7/7/2021 11:12:06 AM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 362600

I wonder if DeSantis is really that ignorant or whether it's all partisan fear mongering. Oooh! Ooooh! I know, I know!!! Partisan Fear Mongering for $100! ALEC has already drafted model legislation that many states are trying to pass. Given that DeSantis is almost certainly a member, he knows what is going on. So it isn't "ignorance" except maybe in the plausible deniability sense of the word.

To: Lane3 who wrote (204434)	7/7/2021 11:25:43 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 362600

>> So, you think students shouldn't hear about equity and justice? "Hear about" is a broad term, but I do not believe classroom time should be spent on, e.g., George Floyd. The classroom is no place for any of that. Equity, same thing. This is a proper role for parents. Not for teachers. And certainly not for teachers who are being trained by unions -- unions, whose interests are far removed from the interests of the children they teach. >> Oh, my. CRT will bring back segregation? Of course. Anytime you summarize anything, details are lost by definition. When a teacher "explains" that racism is "institutional" and everywhere you look, you are saying to black children that whitey cannot be a friend because he's an enemy. CRT from the ground up exists counter to the teachings of MLK and the Civil Rights Act. The reason so many blacks have spoken out in anger about CRT is that they realize what is happening here. I saw video of a black father explaining to a school board that it was effectively telling his kids that their mom derives from evil. That's exactly what it is. We know what slavery was. Teaching children lies is wrong. And the Zinn story is wrong. It DID NOT HAPPEN that way. In the end we have to dump the teachers unions or they will kill public schools.

To: Lane3 who wrote (204434)	7/8/2021 12:10:04 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 362600

When a teacher "explains" that racism is "institutional" and everywhere you look, you are saying to black children that whitey cannot be a friend because he's an enemy. You're a teacher in a high school classroom talking about the American Century. You cover the mid-century economic boom set off by the end of WWII. You mention the returning GIs and the GI bill which enabled mass education and home ownership and the role that played in the growth of the economy, the development of the suburbs, and the foundation of he middle class. Cool. You also mention that Black GI's didn't get to participate fully in that in part due to systemic racism (as discussed previously on this board), which partially explains why Blacks today are worse off than Whites. So, how will the Black kid react relative to the White kid sitting next to him. I expect that it would depend on how the White kid reacts. If the White kid says "Aw, shit, that's horrible, shouldn't have happened," you'd get a constructive reaction from the Black kid. If the introduction of the subject causes the White kid to mouth off about how Blacks are just inherently inferior and that's the sole reason the cohort didn't prosper, yeah, he'd be flagging himself as an enemy. Perhaps the Blacks who oppose "CRT" are anticipating the latter reaction from the White kid at the next desk and don't want to subject their kids to that abuse. So, you think students shouldn't hear about equity and justice? In case you didn't notice, both those words appear in the Constitution.