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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (475992)	7/8/2021 1:09:42 PM
From: Jamie153	Respond to of 542916

It's us against them in government, in the courts, in everything. The gop isn't about governing. Its voters are too dumb to want that (repeal and replace for 10 years and voting to repeal 70 times but not replace?). The gop knows their voters are morons. I just proved it. They need to hate liberals because we balanced the budget, we grow the economy, we passed the ACA, and we saved the economy after they destroyed it. I think everyone understands this now, except for the moderates who wait for the wind to blow them off the fence.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (475992)

7/8/2021 2:22:48 PM

From: koan

Respond to of 542916

There are time when one should work to be bipartisan, and there are times when one needs to recognize the other side as a danger to our country and try to mitigate it.

Two perfect examples would be the Nazi's and Mussolini.

Do you remember:"First they came …" is the poetic form of a 1946 post-war confessional prose by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It is about the cowardice of German intellectuals and certain clergy—including, by his own admission, Niemöller himself—following the Nazis' rise to power and subsequent incremental purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt, repentance, and personal responsibility."

We are in a blood in the streets fight with a great enemy that has set our civil rights way back and is even engaging in third world hegemony with voter suppression.

We Democrats did not recognize the danger of the Republicans in 08 and we were massacred over the next eight years with the Democratic party in tatters by the end of Obama's reign.

Obama kept trying to make friends with the Republicans and he got played over and over, even bringing many into our tent. Even to the extent of not warning us about the Russian attack on us because McConnel didn't want to (as he said).

And as someone pointed out about "game theory" recently, when the other side quits playing by the rules, so do we need to.

And the Republicans managed to get power with 100 unfilled judgeships and have since packed the courts with right wing idiots that will mean great damage to this country for decades, as they put in young people.

And the Republicans stole two supreme court judges that are working hand in glove with the plutocrats, autocrats and right wing to weaken our democracy even more to the point we are in danger of losing a lot of it and the rule of law.

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Everyone I know took and takes McConnell seriously. If it wasn't him the RNC has other willing executioners the same-same.

The nature of US liberalism is to have a broad tent and NOT be authoritarian and sold to the highest bidders.

McConnell is less about any ideology and patriotism and more about serving the funders that keep him and his regiments in office. Democrats by nature have an evolving ideology that serves more people, not bottleneck power.

Yes we could be like obstructionist Mitch and he would gain the ultimate logjam where government would serve ONLY "his people:"