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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (176618)8/17/2021 12:51:42 PM
From: ggersh  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217700
 
CIA/MIC are built on hating Russia/Commies, it's all they got.

good idea!

Here's an idea = stop attacking Russia



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (176618)8/17/2021 11:58:20 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217700
 
how many airports would 2.2-4.4 trillion buy?

11,000?! is a lot. 'they' really were counting on being able to stay for awhile. Do not have a good feeling about whom the Trump called 'hostages'.
There are still 11,000 “self-identified” U.S. citizens in Afghanistan
bloomberg.com

Afghan Airlift Deadline Must Be Extended, Lawmakers Tell Biden
Daniel Flatley
58 minutes ago
More than 40 House lawmakers spanning the political spectrum are imploring President Joe Biden to keep U.S. forces in Afghanistan until they finish evacuating U.S. citizens and Afghan allies fleeing the Taliban.

The bipartisan push, which includes long-time war critics alongside GOP hawks, underscores the growing unease on Capitol Hill about the United States’ messy withdrawal amid the Taliban’s rapid rise in the country.

“The United States must do everything possible to securely hold the airport in Kabul until the rescue mission is complete and our citizens, allies, and vulnerable Afghans have had an opportunity to leave,” the lawmakers wrote in a Tuesday letter to Biden. “We trust that the previous August 31st deadline you imposed on our military mission will not apply to this effort, and that we will stay as long as is necessary to complete it.”

The letter, which was led by Democratic Representatives Tom Malinowski of New Jersey and Jason Crow of Colorado and includes many lawmakers who have served in Afghanistan.

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Others who signed the letter include Democrats who have long agitated to end the Afghan conflict, including Barbara Lee of California, the only lawmaker to vote against the war authorization in 2001, Jim McGovern of Massachusetts and Pramila Jayapal of Washington. They are joined by Elise Stefanik of New York, the third-ranking House Republican and Dan Crenshaw of Texas among other GOP House members.

Pentagon officials on Wednesday said the military would hold the airport until the end of the month to evacuate as many people as possible. Any decision to extend that deadline, they said, would come from Biden.

“The mission runs through August 31st,” Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters. “The commander in chief made it very clear that we were to complete this drawdown by August 31st.”

There are still 11,000 “self-identified” U.S. citizens in Afghanistan, according to White House press secretary Jen Psaki. There are several times that many applicants for the Special Immigrant Visa program and other refugee programs, according to human rights groups.

Kirby said that the Pentagon aimed to fly planes out every hour with the goal of airlifting between 5,000 and 9,000 people a day.

But lawmakers said that the challenge goes beyond just securing the airport and extends to ensuring that evacuees can move safely past a perimeter set up by the Taliban around the airport. They urged Biden to make clear to the Taliban that they will face “grave consequences” if they attempt to interfere with the evacuation.

“We will need to be clear with the Taliban that they must allow safe passage of Afghans needing evacuation to the airport, and that they will face grave consequences if they threaten our troops or impede our evacuation efforts,” the lawmakers wrote.



U.S. soldiers stand guard along a perimeter at the international airport in Kabul, on Aug. 16.

Photographer: Shekib Rahmani/AP Photo

Lawmakers also urge the administration to allow Afghan nationals applying for Special Immigrant Visas to stay at the airport “as long as necessary” so they don’t return to Kabul and risk detection by the Taliban.

The tone and timing of the letter, coming after multiple congressional committees announced their intention to probe the administration’s withdrawal plans, illustrates the widening gulf between Capitol Hill and the White House on the Afghanistan pullout.

“It would be unconscionable and devastating to our credibility to leave our allies behind, given the commitments we have made,” the lawmakers write. “We should not consider ourselves bound to any past commitments we have made to the Taliban, who have never fully lived up to their part of the bargains they struck with us.”

“All that should matter now is our moral obligation and strategic interest to help those who helped us, and to stand by the Afghans who bet their lives on the future we promised,” the letter concludes.

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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (176618)8/18/2021 1:46:31 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217700
 
Re <<"Give them their own Vietnam">>

wasn't just Vietnam.

Re <<Here's an idea = stop attacking Russia>>

... not acceptable, unless the Russians can be fooled into China-China-China meme

Was looking at some history and noted several topical patterns

The Jack is interested in history, especially history of war, and had asked to see certain genre of documentaries but did not quite know what key words to search on

I did search on , that be 1937 battle for Shanghai - China's Stalingrad, and such encourages him to read Chinese language articles epochtimes.com and see some China-sourced videos m.weibo.cn (the song, a fight song, says



'here we have an old lady
her name is china
she has as many offspring as stars in the sky
she is still alive after 5,000 years
protected by god, china'

The battle for Shanghai did not go well, tactically, but strategically rearranged the Japanese plan and set Team Japan on path of failure en.wikipedia.org







Here be the battle where essentially peasants stopped Japanese march on China wartime capital Chongqin



Dien Bian Phu en.wikipedia.org of Vietnam also neat







Lots of videos to mine, and much to refresh-learning

I wait for the post mortem of the Afghanistan episode

but here be the Russian and earlier American experience in that land




might not be able to access, so here be same documentary but in parts. In any case click on the indicated Youtube link it should play. Looks educational.









Neither USSR nor USA asked the Afghanis for anything and just sort of invaded.

Let's see what if anything China does. So far China adopting the simpler approach, essentially, 'keep your house in order, and tell us what you wish as development and we together buy and sell'

Either naive or refreshing or both, as approaches go.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (176618)8/21/2021 11:57:57 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217700
 
folks of MSM and their handlers appear to have learned little to nothing

time shall tell

the game moves, gaming continues

the way I get at the news, do key-words search and triangulate, in English and Chinese

I cannot do searches easily in other languages