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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (176841)8/21/2021 11:45:39 AM
From: marcher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217638
 
--THAT IS SCIENCE--

in your opinion, is science an absolute truth?



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (176841)8/21/2021 7:49:34 PM
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And, it produces MORE of them in the vaxxed than in the unvaxxed, it appears...

Why would the same virus produce more virions in those who are "protected" than in those "not" ?

Our prior exchange, though, seems to have you opting out short of its conclusion:

So, here's another couple of opinions:

Those defending the vax... seem to have totally lost track of the reason we try to do health care at all... as well as the first rule imposing limits in the effort: "First, do no harm"...

The vax effort... is harming people... in many ways... with the harms done VASTLY larger than the harm by the disease being addressed... when there are no VALID justifications for it, at all... given MANY other things obviate the need... while avoiding the harms.

What is your plan to avoid and obviate doing harms ?

Include in that... the damage the lies told have done and are doing to trust... destroying the foundation of medicine... and of science... corroding society... undermining hundreds or thousands of years of social progress ?

How will that trust be restored... by your plan... after we ensure the liars are properly punished ?

While there is a moral imperative to avoid doing harms, there is no NEED to do the harms being done ? There is only a DESIRE to do them... that, in the guilty lacking a proper moral filter that applies in limiting their amoral actions, that desire outweighs proper moral judgement in relation to over-lapping moral obligations... each of many imposing a moral requirement to desist...

What shall we do with those who have failed that moral test... and evidence that desire to do harm ?

They're insisting the only way you can care for people... is by violating their rights... conducting medical experiments on them... destroying their livelihoods and the economy, destroying society, and the proper function of the rules on which it is based, while hoping the effort made kills all of those who very rightly refuse to submit to that, or to being made guinea pigs... or to the obvious ignorance of those wrongly posturing themselves as authorized, in opposition to fundamental moral principle, to decide for others ?

The vax has become a political litmus test... for some reason... which, in itself, is both evidence of an hidden agenda being driven, and insane... but look more carefully at what the color differences in the results of the litmus tests are exposing... ?

Some of what is exposed... is a glad willingness by some, to participate in crimes against humanity...

In others, an ignorant inability to parse the moral weight of their own choices...

Some of that clearly provides proofs of both moral and educational deficiencies...

Shall we adopt "eye for an eye" as principle to justify killing those we trusted who failed us and erred in that way... as we did at Nuremberg ?

It appears [the pairing of the virus and the vax with the power of authority] is being used as a weapon, in that way, now... with those wielding it fully intending and expecting to abuse trust, act with impunity, and be protected from any potential counter-attacks... by having opted to costume themselves in the dis-guise of white lab coats ? And, that's exactly why the Nuremberg Conventions exist... as a promise that that won't work ?

Overtly wishing harm on those who disagree with you... as you try to force them to participate in medical experiments... that have no valid justification ? Or, otherwise... try to force them to submit to "care"... that has no valid justification... but clearly violates every moral principle ?

THAT IS NOT SCIENCE..

And neither "science" nor the dis-guise of a white lab coat and the presumption of authority... will shield you from what you earn in making that choice... exactly as it did not protect the guilty at Nuremberg.