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To: Alan Buckley who wrote (17089)	2/5/1998 8:39:00 AM
From: Justin Banks	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 24154

Alan - isn't is also good to force SUNW, AAPL, IBM, DEC etc to sell their OSes to independent computer makers in the first place? Well, you can buy Solaris without a Sun, run mkLinux on an AAPL (although I don't think you can buy a box without an OS), and run a variety of OS's on DEC boxes - they will sell you one without an OS at all, and they'll sell your Digital Unix (formerly OSF/1) sans computer. As for IBM, that would depend on what machines you're talking about, although comparing the SP2 (or even AS/400) sales paradigm to PPro is quite silly, don't you agree? But, you can't buy a CPQ, DELL, or Gateway machine without the OS pre-loaded. That's the problem. -justinb

To: Alan Buckley who wrote (17089)	2/5/1998 11:31:00 AM
From: K. M. Strickler	Respond to of 24154

I hadn't looked at it that way, as I sit here and type on my Gateway, w/MS Natural Keyboard, using IE into an internet site that has 'real people' discussing real problems! You are absolutely correct, without the availability of a software operating system that can be run on a multitude of platforms, we could (er--would) be paying substantially more for what we have. (Not that we aren't paying enough already!) As for making the other software run on other machines, let me see now, ah - how many make platforms that software runs on? (Wasn't it AAPL that just 'bought' a clone mfg to 'cut out' the competition?) Interesting? Thoughts! Ken