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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1318019)	9/5/2021 11:38:45 PM
From: Winfastorlose	3 Recommendations Recommended By IC720 Mick Mørmøny tntpal Respond to of 1569823

47 Predictions of the Messiah Fulfilled in Jesus Christ Old Testament Prophecies of Jesus

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1318019)	9/5/2021 11:39:25 PM
From: Bonefish	2 Recommendations Recommended By Mick Mørmøny Winfastorlose Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1569823

Seems like number 2 already happened. The other three are waiting for his return.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1318019)	9/5/2021 11:44:42 PM
From: Winfastorlose	1 Recommendation Recommended By Mick Mørmøny Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1569823

Did Jesus Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies in the Old Testament? The misconception that Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies of the Old Testament is predominately held by Jewish People. The argument stems from several key Scriptures: Isaiah 11:1-9, Isaiah 2:3-4, and Micah 4:2-3 In Isaiah 11:1-9, we see prophecies about the coming Messiah, some of which were fulfilled in Yeshua, but some have not been fulfilled yet. . We don’t yet see wolves lying down with lambs, nursing children playing at the cobra’s hole, or the earth full of the knowledge of the LORD. The verses in Micah are also clear prophecies about the coming Messiah, and they tell of a universal peace that has not yet manifested. The argument then is: if Jesus was the Messiah, why isn’t there world peace? Many Jewish People who are still waiting expectantly for the Messiah are expecting a Messiah who will bring world peace. Yet there are many Messianic prophecies that paint a different picture of the Messiah. Isaiah 53 speaks of the Messiah coming as a suffering servant, One who is led as lamb to the slaughter and who takes our sorrows, infirmities, and punishment on Himself. This suffering Messiah is prophesied to be pierced for our transgression. This is a clear depiction of Yeshua’s crucifixion. A significant Messianic prophecy that is often overlooked by those still waiting for the Messiah is Daniel 9:24-27. This Old Testament prophecy says that Messiah, the Anointed One, will be “cut off,” or killed, before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, which happened in 70 A.D. Clearly, Yeshua’s death fits as fulfilling this prophecy, and no Messiah yet to come could. Bible prophecy contains portraits of both a suffering Messiah and a victorious Messiah. The suffering servant is pictured as a lamb, wounded, and cut off, but not for Himself. The triumphant Messiah comes to establish His rule of peace and righteousness over the earth. These two seemingly contradictory prophetic descriptions are difficult to understand for Jewish People. To reconcile these two very different portrayals of the Messiah, there grew a belief among the rabbis that they were waiting for two Messiahs. One they called Mashiach ben David, and He would be the Son of King David who would rule and reign. The other they called Mashiach ben Joseph, the Son of Joseph. This Messiah ben Joseph would suffer and be rejected by his own like Joseph was rejected by his brothers. At the time of Yeshua’s coming, Israel longed for the conquering Messiah. Because of Rome’s oppression and their expectation that God would send the Deliverer, they were looking for Messiah ben David. The truth is, it is not two Messiahs, it is one Messiah coming twice—first as the Lamb of God, the suffering servant of Isaiah 53, and then as the reigning King Messiah when Yeshua returns. Yeshua’s first coming fulfilled the prophecies of the suffering servant. With Yeshua’s Second Coming, we will see the fulfillment of the victorious, reigning Messiah of Isaiah 11:1-9!

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (1318019)	9/5/2021 11:59:37 PM
From: Maple MAGA	2 Recommendations Recommended By IC720 Mick Mørmøny Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1569823

"If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah." "cannot" is not in your purview or power, and don't say it is in a book you don't believe in... After Rome fell the administrative class took over the early Christian church perverting its course. The early group when not waging wars and tricking the faithful were in control of doctrine and dogma and elected a hierarchy that became fabulously wealthy. If you disagreed with their pontifications you might find yourself tied to a stake on fire after some torture to soften you up. My point is they changed things as they saw fit, just like early editors of the Torah, Talmud and Koran. They invented services and rituals designed to dazzle, Christians wound up as either Catholic or Protestant. The old testament is a collection of fireside tales written down after the invention of writing. Some OT content is entertaining and some is a direct revelation that Christ came in fulfilment of. John 20:29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” John might have been writing about Paul... Paul's conversion is mentioned in the Epistles and in Acts. According to both Paul was not a follower of Jesus, did not know him before His crucifixion. Paul's conversion occurred after Jesus's crucifixion and resurrection. All the apostles were practising Jews and more woke on the subject of "cannot" than you could ever hope to be as a non-practising Jew of no faith.