A forked thread off of the genesis discourse Message 33482263
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On Sunday, September 12, 2021, 07:01:24 AM GMT+8, J wrote:
G, let me fix your polite and valid observation that <<Americans are tired of foreign engagement and want to contract and focus inward.>> ... they want to concentrate on each other.
There, fixed the sentence.
'They' are no longer discussing issues. They are just concentrating on and discussing each other.
In so far as imperatives normally and ideally lead to solutions, concentrating on each other in the way DNC / RNC are doing simply leads to more discussion of the same, in a loop that either spirals up or down, unless and until stopped by something. Infinite-looping is not how events typically spiral. I reckon 2022 shall give us a hint re 2024, and 2024 would be important in some way.
W, Canada is heading out. Australia is not yet there. America is looping, conjuring up image of a serpent swallowing own tail, that leaves the fewer and fewer like-minded to fend for selves. I think Britain is well on way to digesting self. Perhaps the traditionally aristocratic ruling class can thread together another magna carta by which the regime tried and successfully got to keep what they looted out of the feudal system and in a mathematical sense kept until today, whereas in more stubborn domains the ruling class lost their heads along with property.
But if and given so, what would be the equivalent of a new magna carta be, in this day & age?
N, I visited the La Marina thestandard.com.hk , that which immediately abuts your valuable neighbourhood in Wong Chuk Hang, and I viewed the show hovel put up in the Kerry office in Quarry Bay, then I meandered across the street to view some nano apartment of Henderson Land, and I ended up in the old Kai Tak airport area to get a sense of what is going on.
What appears to be going on is that due to the pandemic lock-down and lock-in, and even though happy refugees escaping to sunnier climes of Canada, and Britain, primarily, and with a few staking in America, and fewer in Australia (forget New Zealand, as none can get there, as you know) on the mistaken belief that they are decamping tyrannical Hong Kong for liberation lands, Hong Kong property take-up is tremendous.
The domestic folks, consisting of what appears to be pure domestic HK folks trapped in our prison, and the mainland diaspora in Hong Kong trapped with all, are paying up for still-under-construction homestead going for bargain pricing of US$ 3,850 per square foot assuming one is fortunate enough on the queuing lucky-draw. The left over and choicer auction-only apartments are going for mouthwatering US$ 5,150 psf. And the areas are still far from maturing with malls and such still under construction.
I looked at La Marina not at all as anything worthwhile but trying to get a sense of what may happen to industrial lofts that we hope to go dearer, and I am jazzed. I have not a clue of what per square foot pricing out to be but note that when some property is a part of the Greater Bay Area, soon to be enhanced by Qianhai experimental zone, already linked by MTR and high-speed rail all the way to the edges of the middle kingdom and eventually boosted to Spain and points south, and to Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey, Egypt, and once more points south, and a string of pearls from Lamma Island to the Arctic Sea, by way of S China Sea and E China Sea, newly secured by upgraded freedom of navigation peace, what should a square foot be worth, when Team China's real estate speculation is deliberately cooled per requirements of Common Prosperity, and a lot of students to join a lot of scape-goated faculty from Stanford, Caltech, MIT, etc etc here in meritocractic Freedom Island Hong Kong. And with Ocean Park as a de facto back yard accessible by annual pass card costing US$ 64. Aberdeen Marina Club membership is being taken up even as others let such go.
I feel bad for the volunteer refugees. What on earth are they going to do out there when the action is here?
Did you know that some courses in HK's universities are populated by 90% mainland students?
Four office units came up for sale in the South w/i walking distance of your Derrick Industrial, second hand, and a third hand took all four believing it all a bargain. Some bodies are wrong and some are right, and only time shall tell us who is correct.
Transfusion continues apace.
M, am assuming you see happenings in the residential / office / and commercial space on different trajectories. Would be interested to get your read.
Great Sunday to all
On Saturday, September 11, 2021, 11:42:57 PM GMT+8, G wrote:
Agreed !
On 11 Sep 2021, at 8:36 AM, W wrote:
G
I am constantly amazed at the stupidity of the American people. PT Barnum was right. Nobody ever lost a nickel underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Tell them whatever bs you want and then wrap the flag around it.
Then you have Canada. You need papers to go there and more importantly papers to get out. Good luck with that.
Now Australia. No need to discuss Oz. People Farm. Premiers control the herd. Get vaxxed against a virus never isolated and proven to cause disease or else. Proven remedies like Ivermectin and HCQ are now illegal. Just take the vaccine. Which interfaces with your DNA to cause you to produce toxic spike proteins. Which causes blood clots. And myocarditis. And pericarditis.And necrosis of the liver and kidneys. And sterility as it aggregates in the ovaries and testes.
All for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.
From: G
Sent: Saturday, 11 September 2021 10:14 pm
To: J
Subject: Re: Comments: Week of June 14th
What is more amazing is thAt people are surprised.
The usa has very little interest in saudi or middle east. Why because of shale oil and gas
So i think the pull out from afghanistan is a prelude to further pull out of forces from most if not all the middle east. Other then maybe 1-2 strategic isolated bases, bahrain ?
Priority remove americans from direct harm
Broadly continue " trump policy" of america first and withdraw from foreign arenas . This is where trump and his handlers were smart when he won the election - for they harnessed the mood of the people. It was not the other way around, they did not create the mood.
Americans are tired of foreign engagement and want to contract and focus inward.
And saudi must know what is coming. They have sealed their own fate.
And their problem is that the upcoming fight with iran is much deeper and personal.
Will be interesting to see how loyal all "hired in" workers (pakistanis, Ethiopians, Phillipinos, indians ) , will be - first shots fired and in my view most will flee saudi.
Frankly i will not be surprised to see the usa court cases against saudi for 9/11 resurface and prosper.
As the halo is gone !
Seizure of financial assets , sanctions on par for course
Then let it all burn. And let it be china's problem to secure the energy supply.
And i dont think you will find more the 1 % of americans who would care otherwise.
So very easy political win !
Saudi is no longer viewed as an real ally by american people.
And in fact many would put them on the enemy of america list (well those that even know where it is is , so must realise that we are limited to a sample size 10% of the population anyways )
It was just a marriage of convenience which has run its course.
So let the game begin
On 11 Sep 2021, at 12:43 AM, J wrote:
Another month, one more betrayal
bloomberg.com
US Pulls Missile Defenses in Saudi Arabia Amid Yemen Attacks
September 11, 2021, 2:52 PM GMT+8
On Saturday, September 11, 2021, 03:38:09 PM GMT+8, Jay Chen <jayacham_chen@yahoo.com.hk> wrote:
It’s either the price of freedom, or cost of liberty, or
Perhaps just a normal feature of the new world order
In any case, all comparative, and relative, to Hong Kong, the once-upon-a-good-time #1, and now we switch scale knoema.com as the one by Heritage Foundation heritage.org has been corrupted by DNC / RNC to the point of useless.
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