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To: danderso who wrote (5374)	2/5/1998 3:20:00 PM
From: derek cao	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 19080

Re: As an example, in many countries 30% of phone calls received from the US are due to dialback arrangements that work around the high prices imposed by monopoly pricing. This is a huge change in a short period of time. Dave, I happen to be familiar with international callback. It started 3-4 years ago and I can sure you there is NO JAVA involved. Although it is illegal in a lot of countries, it is PROFITABLE at the beginning which can NOT be said about any product JAVA related. Investment is about reasonable chance to make a PROFIT. I know now that I can not convince you. So let's agree on disagree. derek

To: danderso who wrote (5374)	2/5/1998 6:47:00 PM
From: Mark Finger	Respond to of 19080

>>1) I think Java is moving quickly, you think slowly Derek, Dave, ... It has been 3 years since Java was introduced. Remember that Lotus 123 came out around 3 years after the IBM PC was introduced and that was what really led to its wide acceptance. It was 2-3 years after the Mac was introduced before it was really a good enough machine to set itself apart (with the introduction of the Mac II). It was 7 years after the introduction of Windows before Windows 3.0 finally got the attention of the world. It was a lot more than 3 year before C++ started making a dent in the C market. One thing to remember is that Java did not have good international support (for text) until the introduction of 1.1 about a year ago, and that key portions of it are still being developed. Until about a year ago, it should really have been considered in pre-release form for major projects. Give it a reasonable amount of time, and do not plan too much for initial projects. If the plans are too big, they will fail, because it is enough different to bite those who do not have a lot of experience. Mark