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To: koan who wrote (480729)10/4/2021 3:46:25 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540820
 
Using more "IMO" is a great place to start to help people separate your passion from independently reviewable facts. You can certainly have opinions. Perhaps it is just your enthusiasm - but when subjects (like Afghanistan) come up - the opinions get confounded with emotions in most people and they become resolute on a number of things - morality, propriety, etc. We have to approach subjects with emotional content differently - I made my "logical case for abortion" with the 4th Amendment and property rights analogs for guests vs. paying tenants with agency. I don't expect anyone who feels strongly the other way to be swayed.

There are increases in IQ that may have the same root causes as increased body height (nutritional availability) - so if I feed humanity better they could very well get smarter. But there is also the possibility of the "answers" being leaked into the society so that "novel problems" are no longer novel as some people are taught them in other venues or practice that type of problem more.

And women test better than men but there are still skills, where normalization is performed, where men (or women) test better. All true - however I'm not sure how we use this information to form policy (or if we should). IMO.



To: koan who wrote (480729)10/4/2021 5:57:44 PM
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Here's what Flynn himself calls out in non-support of the "we are getting smarter" interpretation of his own work. He didn't come up the term "Flynn Effect" - coined by the authors of The Bell Curve - he would have credited the first person to have made the observation, Reed Tuddenham.

psychometrics.cam.ac.uk

From the man himself:

I also wish to underline that if we want to write the cognitive history of the 20th century, rising IQ is at most half the story. There are other intellectual qualities, namely, critical acumen and wisdom, that IQ tests were not designed to measure and do not measure and these are equally worthy of attention. Our obsession with IQ is one indication that rising wisdom has not characterized our time.