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To: micromike who wrote (7566)	2/5/1998 10:20:00 PM
From: Scotsman	Respond to of 64865

A most excellent article, thanks. Gives me hope. But I have seen how Microsoft works, and it has enormous power. They are indeed a monopoly and are now acting as one. As the article says, it is indeed different now than it was when the PC just got started. Back than it was relatively easy for someone like Gates, when he made all the right moves in a brand new business, to take over from a bunch of people making all the wrong moves. Now he has to contend with an established base of competitors that aren't going to just roll over and die. Also the article points out that the corporate world is totally different now. Back when PC's were stand alone units, indeed MSFT could dominate. Now they are interconnected through the net and LANS, and MSFT is having to play catch up. The one thing the article didn't point out that is positive for anti-MSFT is that the programming base in JAVA is quite large. That is what did in Apple and the like, no software. Hopefully Sun's JAVA has a large enough following to fight off the pressure techniques MSFT has used in the past. And we should not forget that the DOJ is starting to look very critcally at MSFT, so they can't do anything really "sharp." One thing for sure, this will give us years of entertainment as they duke it out. Thanks.

To: micromike who wrote (7566)	2/6/1998 9:03:00 AM
From: cfimx	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

This is all quite stimulating, but if it were true, wouldn't Scott have made the following announcements, and not Bill? After all, this is the "promised land" that Mcneally is counting on, right? 1) Siemens plans widespread use of Windows CE MUNICH, Germany, Feb 5 (Reuters) - Siemens AG (OTC BB:SMAWY - news; SIEG.F) said on Thursday it expected to cooperate with Microsoft Corp (MSFT - news). to use the U.S. company's Windows CE software in telephones, automation equipment and other products. Chief executives William Gates of Microsoft and Siemens' Heinrich von Pierer would meet on Friday and the two companies planned to sign a letter of intent, a Siemens spokesman said. Windows CE is a compact version of the Windows operating systems for personal computers. It was originally developed for handheld computers. Siemens declined to give further details. 2) Gates tells of Nokia partnership By Reuters February 5, 1998, 5:25 p.m. PT HELSINKI, Finland--Microsoft (MSFT) chairman Bill Gates today said his company is holding talks with Finnish telecom equipment maker Nokia on development of future technology products. Gates told Reuters and Finnish technology magazine IT-Kananva in an interview that Microsoft was not going to buy part of Nokia nor would Nokia buy part of Microsoft. "We will be able to get together in terms of creating some new products," he said. "There is some good discussion taking place along those lines." The two companies could combine elements of Microsoft's Windows CE operating system--a compact version of the Windows system--and its Office suite of productivity software with Nokia's wireless infrastructure, Gates said. Gates said cooperation wit Nokia concerned future products. "Anything we do together is not for the current generation of hardware. They will be developed in the future," he said. "I consider Nokia a very key partner," he added. Gates earlier told a seminar that Microsoft's previous vision of "a computer on every desk" could be rephrased as "a computer in every pocket." "Microsoft's vision for PCs five years from now is a wireless device you can carry around. You can connect this tablet-size PC to the wireless network and get access to the information of your choice," he said in the summary of a speech. Story Copyright c 1998 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Hmmm....