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To: Barry Grossman who wrote (47320)	2/6/1998 9:31:00 AM
From: Ibexx	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Barry, Oren Hatch is the lowest form of political existence. The guy has no principles, will do anything to please his constituencies in Utah. It wouldn't surprise me if he is on the payroll of Novell. Sheesh... Ibexx

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (47320)	2/6/1998 10:17:00 AM
From: BlueCrab	Respond to of 186894

Barry -- Hint: What used-to-be-major software company lies squarely in the heart of Orrin's home state? Hint2: It ain't MSFT...(;=) Jeff

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (47320)	2/6/1998 12:31:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Barry - Re: "Microsoft and Sen. Orin Hatch" This is Politics as Usual. Senator Hatch is the elected Senator from Utah. Utah is the home of Novell. Novell has lost nearly all of its growth and growth potential and blames Microsoft. They also fell flat on their face in the PC application business and the PC OS business - they did buy Digital Research (CP/M, DR DOS) many years back. Senator Hatch Represents Utah citizens and businesses. Isn't the implication clear? Paul

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (47320)	2/6/1998 1:26:00 PM
From: Sonny McWilliams	Respond to of 186894

Barry, re: Does anybody else have a problem with Sen. Hatch's comments? Message 3351540 BTW, there was political low life mentioned. Now I can see a lot more drastic stuff around in that department. But like I said, when it comes to their own State those Politicians have their own agenda regardless on what side of the political spectrum they are on. Now, didn't we hear in the meantime that the market dropped at that certain time because there was a rumor immunity to Monica had been granted? Sonny

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (47320)	2/6/1998 4:11:00 PM
From: Jeff Fox	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Barry, re: DOJ Antitrust activities I am totally confused as to what DOJ thinks it is doing. They seem uninterested in this year's fad of doing "roll ups", i.e. rampant mergers to restrict competition. The examples are numerous from cable TV, garbage collection to mortuaries. Most have resulted in much higher prices, but no action from DOJ. In fact there isn't any guidance from DOJ as to what is permissible and what isn't. Then there are our traditional monopolies that remain unmentioned by DOJ. For instance Polaroid has exclusivity to instant (chemical) photography for fifty years, long after the basic patents have lapsed. There has since been little innovation and continuously rising prices. Where regular photography has been held to a high 50 cents per picture, Polaroid demands over $1 per shot. There newest "disposable camera" product is priced and $2 per shot, now 4x the cost of convention snapshots. Contrast this to Intel who halves the cost of computing (at same performance) each and every year!. How Polaroid compare to Microsoft's behavior where they are providing new function for zero price? Then take a look at the battery (dry cell) business. Here there is clear (if informal) price collusion. I have priced batteries for years in the stores. Never has there been as much as a penny difference in price, and the prices have never gone down. Seems to me there is plenty of work if the trust busters were at all interested in doing their job. They obviously have not! It is shameful for them then to "reawaken" to persecute Wintel, two outfits from which the world has reaped immeasurable benefit. Jeff