| 00:00 | | Dr. Giorlandino, I guess all media and influential members of the Scientific Committee |
| 00:06 | | are starting to say that the quick swab doesn’t work that well. |
| 00:10 | | They say it is not that safe; it has a big margin of error. |
| 00:14 | | And basically not really suitable to get the Green Pass. |
| 00:24 | | I have been saying for a long time that we had already got out |
| 00:29 | | of the pandemic situation, and that was so evident to many. |
| 00:33 | | We had totally got out of the pandemic. |
| 00:37 | | If we want to see some charts about the infection curve, we can see that |
| 00:41 | | in last May all of Europe had just got out of the pandemic. |
| 00:45 | | Can you see? Then, all of a sudden it reappeared. |
| 00:48 | | No we can’t. —I should have explained to you that |
| 00:51 | | you are supposed to send us your charts in advance. |
| 00:54 | | Because despite our efforts to do our best, we cannot see your charts from here. |
| 01:01 | | I did send them to you. —He did send them? We haven’t elaborated them, then. |
| 01:06 | | Let’s carry on; we had already showed them, though. It’s all right, I was saying that |
| 01:09 | | we were out the pandemic. Everyone knows that, we were out. |
| 01:12 | | Then, all of a sudden on July 1, Europe stated the necessity for a Green Pass. |
| 01:20 | | And fifteen days later, the pandemic was back again. |
| 01:23 | | I am not blaming the Green Pass. I am blaming the effects of the Green Pass. |
| 01:27 | | It has generated a mad run to get quick swabs. |
| 01:30 | | Swab sales have been skyrocketing in all of Europe. |
| 01:34 | | And although we know that in July there are no viral infections, |
| 01:38 | | the infection curve rose again everywhere, seven or ten days later. |
| 01:42 | | It rose again dramatically. And Israelis were the first to realize that. |
| 01:46 | | So you are not saying that the rise in infections is due to the rise of swab screening. |
| 01:51 | | What you are saying is that we all had a false sense of protection after the swab, right? |
| 01:55 | | No, I am saying more people got ill! |
| 01:58 | | What? —Yes, they got ill because they went everywhere. |
| 02:04 | | The false sense of safety that vaccination gave us |
| 02:08 | | made us behave carelessly, and the contagion has been somehow reactivated. |
| 02:12 | | Yes, in my opinion we should have avoided all that. |
| 02:15 | | We should have avoided the Green Pass and mandatory swabs, and waited for the pandemic to end. |
| 02:20 | | The pandemic was about to end because people used to shield themselves. |
| 02:23 | | A quick swab has a big margin of error according to medicine, |
| 02:28 | | which is based on scientific evidence. |
| 02:32 | | I have heard talk about science today: scientists do not agree on everything, let that be clear. |
| 02:37 | | Cochrane says that the medicine based on evidence can be mistaken eight times out of ten. |
| 02:45 | | Whoever has a swab done feels psychologically safe and will behave carelessly. |
| 02:52 | | And that is why the contagion broke out again, all of a sudden. |
| 02:55 | | Italy underwent a second violent contagion rise, after October 15, |
| 03:00 | | as soon as the Green Pass became mandatory for workers. |
| 03:04 | | A new run to the quick swabs, and so another rise of infections. |
| 03:10 | | The first thing we ought to do is to avoid being infected. |
| 03:15 | | So professor Giorlandino is saying that whenever we turned to quick swabs, the situation got worse. |
| 03:18 | | Regardless of how many people got vaccinated? |
| 03:21 | | I am not the one who said that, I am just an observer. |
| 03:25 | | We should have an overall view of the problem, not a particular one. |
| 03:30 | | In order to have an overall view of the problem, |
| 03:34 | | we ought to observe what happens with the infections curve. |
| 03:38 | | So today the Green Pass is granted to… —I beg your pardon? |
| 03:42 | | So the Green Pass is granted to the vaccinated, to the recovered, |
| 03:47 | | and to those workers who have just a molecular swab done. |
| 03:53 | | Medical casuistry states that the recovered are the only people |
| 03:59 | | who will not infect anyone and who cannot be infected again, unless in a mild form. |
| 04:06 | | If you have read “The Betrothed”, do you recall who the Monatti were? |
| 04:14 | | They were the recovered. —In your opinion whoever got measles, can get it twice? |
| 04:20 | | But now we have the vaccination, thank God. |
| 04:23 | | Well, it turns out that vaccination is not actually the cause, and it’s not me who said that. |
| 04:29 | | Unlike other parts of the world, we can see we have a different situation now, |
| 04:33 | | because we have had so many people who recovered. |
| 04:37 | | But that cannot be a solution because I haven’t got Covid yet. |
| 04:43 | | I am going to get the third vaccine dose, I need to be sure I will be safe. |
| 04:47 | | Of course, I am not one of those who criticize any vaccine, I just criticize this vaccine. |
| 04:56 | | Because this vaccine is made with a spike protein that does not exist anymore. |
| 04:59 | | As for France, I am going to be brief. |
| 05:05 | | Please, be brief, I need to ask Morani and Longhini too. |
| 05:09 | | I beg your pardon, yesterday in France they had 95,000 new cases, we had only 6,000. |
| 05:17 | | France has as many inhabitants as Italy, but they have had a complete vaccination campaign. |
| 05:22 | | Same as in Germany. In Spain they have had double ours, |
| 05:27 | | as for new cases and with a higher vaccination rate, you see? |
| 05:32 | | As you can see, the vaccine does not protect, unfortunately. |
| 05:35 | | I am not saying that we should not be vaccinated, pay attention. |
| 05:39 | | Excuse me, saying that the vaccine doesn’t protect is too much. |
| 05:42 | | Let’s listen to Morani and Longhini. —But look at the data, please! |
| 05:46 | | But look at the data! It is not me who says that. For God’s sake! Look at the data, please. |
| 05:51 | | We should have used another vaccine instead. |
| 05:54 | | Hold on a moment, let Morani and Longhini respond, please. |
| 05:57 | | It’s the data, it is not me who wants to state that. |
| 06:01 | | The vaccine does not protect any more in Europe. |
