SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Strategies & Market Trends : 2026 TeoTwawKi ... 2032 Darkest Interregnum -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: gg cox who wrote (181265)12/11/2021 7:26:20 PM
From: maceng21 Recommendation

Recommended By
Horgad

  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217979
 
What planet are you and the people who wrote that report on?

The vaccines are more healthy for you for what reason ? (they say Covid excepted too).

Here is some more down to Earth stats.



"One size fits all, to a cartoonish degree"



South Africa and Japan have very low serious Covid infection rates. They took lots of Ivermectin in those countries.

Where is Vitamin D3 in the scene?

The baloney we are seeing from the politicans and the media is ridiculous. Beyond Rediculous in the lies and the misdirection they are peddling.

Looks to me some are telling deliberate lies and time will prove who. The statistics will show. I am happy with the guys I listen too.



To: gg cox who wrote (181265)12/11/2021 8:15:37 PM
From: alanrs  Respond to of 217979
 
People Vaccinated Against COVID Less Likely to Die from Any Cause, Ever: Study

Fixed that for them.



To: gg cox who wrote (181265)12/11/2021 10:12:06 PM
From: Pogeu Mahone  Respond to of 217979
 
Ponce De Leon fountain of Youth




To: gg cox who wrote (181265)12/12/2021 1:38:42 AM
From: Maurice Winn8 Recommendations

Recommended By
3bar
alanrs
Arran Yuan
Hoa Hao
Horgad

and 3 more members

  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 217979
 
Not true: People Vaccinated Against COVID Less Likely to Die from Any Cause:


I waded through the limited data that NZ Podium of Truth provides on-line to see what the current adverse events, deaths are and trends etc. They made the same claim which applied for all age groups.

I have spent decades wading through detail with engineering maths level ability to understand. I've seen loads of bullshit over decades from supposedly scientific people.

The data available online is tendentious twaddle.

As just a couple of examples:

1..... Of 100 post vax deaths, half were excluded from being possibly due to the vax. I guess that's true if they say so. The other half were not ascertained as they wrote that not enough information was available to know. Only 1 young woman was dead due to the vax [myocarditis].

With not enough information being available for 50 of the deaths, it's presumptuous to exclude them as being casually due to the vax. With only 40 total deaths in New Zealand [aka Aotearoa-Zimbabwe] due to covid, even 1 death is an issue. But if a good part of the unknown 50 were causally related, it's quite problematic.

2..... Regarding the claim that vaxxed are less likely to die from any cause, the detail of that claim needs to be checked. Their claim is that in each age group, a known proportion die each month and there's a long history of decades to see how that proportion has varied. Of those vaxxed, they find that there is a lower proportion of death in each age group than normally happens. Simplistically, that might mean that vaxxing reduces death rates. But more correctly, what it means is that people with terminal illnesses or otherwise nearly dead from various causes that afflict people are very unlikely to be given a covid vax.

Since sudden omigosh surprising deaths are uncommon, including in the young, a lot of the nearly dead are not being counted in the 'got the vax and died within a month' number. So the vaxxed don't die in the next month as frequently as regular humans. That does not mean that getting the vax stops people dying from brain cancer, it means that the brain cancer victim died without the vax, so the total count of post-vax deaths is reduced. Since something like a third of deaths are due to cancer, and other gradual processes, it's a big impact on the post-vax proportion of deaths.

When people present data in faulty ways, they are either ignorant, or stupid, and don't understand that they are misusing statistics, or they are criminal scum who should be fired and shot at dawn.

It might be true that the vaxxing is a great idea, but when they are caught lying or simply wrong and useless, it destroys trust in their so-called Settle Science. When people mistrust, they are going to avoid. That means people who should get vaxxed don't. They are totally correct to mistrust the stupid, lying, commie kleptocratic scum running countries. But it might still be a good idea for them to get vaxxed.

Getting vaxxed does not cure brain cancer, or heart failure, or liver failure, or kidney collapse, or lung cancer, etc. Unfortunately, young adults end up in hospice care too. With a few weeks of life left, it's unethical to risk doing more damage with a covid vaxx as well, causing pain and suffereing for no benefit. Even the religious fanaticism for vaxxing is probably not going that far.

Mqurice

PS: We really do have a Podium of Truth in Aotearoa-Zimbabwe, which is operated by the Prime MInister and 2 or 3 of her co-conspirators. That is what they called it. They were obviously unaware of the '1984' George Orwell Ministry of Truth. Richly ironical but horribly unfunny. DuckduckGo no doubt has refences.