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To: Kenneth Kirk who wrote (440)	2/7/1998 12:08:00 PM
From: gregor	Respond to of 1283

Dear Kenneth: These are powerful words but this is what I would say to him, so if you see him tell him I am praying for him and lifting him up to the Lord; also give him this if possible. Galations Chap 5:1 "Standfats therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ Hath made us free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. vs 4. whosoever of you are justified by the law, ye are fallen from grace, vs. 13. for brethren ye have been called unto liberty vs 19:20-21. the works of the flesh shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Ephesians 5;3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness let it not be ONCE named among you, as becometh saints. vs 5:5. for this ye know that no whoremonger nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. vs 6.let no man deceive you with vain words, for because of these cometh the wrath of God upon the children ( God's own children )of disobedience. I would say this to him ,,Son of God, brother of Jesus, Christ opened the prison doors for you but He did not close and lock them again behind you. This is a very basic way of explaining your inheritance in Christ, but while you are wealthy and rich beyond comparison, beyond explanation in Christ being an inheritor and being able to enjoy your inheritance are two different things. Christ died and left you His estate, all of it, He did not take it with him so to speak, but there are many ways in which your estate can be tied up in all kinds of proceedings. Christ want's you to be able to lay hands on your inheritance, He wants you to enjoy it, invest it, start a business with it, and even spend it, not in a wasteful manner but to be able to live off of it for all eternity. So to sum up in three simple steps,1. while before you were a pauper now you are rich and wealthy in Christ.2. follow the rules of the authorities and of God so that you can lay hold of what is now yours. 3. once you have it do not squander it but invest and spend wisely so that you can enjoy your inheritance for all eternity. IN CHRIST.gregor

To: Kenneth Kirk who wrote (440)	2/8/1998 3:39:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 1283

Kenneth, how interesting a situation. I wish I had a pat answer, but that is always a situation in which all you can do is bind the power of satan to enter this guys life. Remember that every demon in hell will be dispatched to get him back, and he can't really understand that until he sees it lived out and looks back on it. I have mentioned the four powerful hard-core ex-biker preachers I personally know who all strangely by coincidence share of meeting the Lord at the point of suicide, as in the process of same, and all four with guns at their heads. After I heard the last one--a ex-Texas "Outlaw" member, and they are apparently the worst of the worst-- share his testimony of finally getting so sick of his life he couldn't stand it one more day, I was struck by the wonder of how many of the worst of the worst come to a point of terminating their lives. This is of course not only bikers. I'm surprised how many sinful, sinful people one day no longer want to live. All of them are rather attractive--two very. I didn't understand why all four would have been saved only after their lives had lead them to suicide, and I remember saying to the guy in Mesa, "well, I guess when the devil comes courting you with the good old days and all the fun you're missing, the Lord can just say, "Yes, I remember what fun you were having. You were really enjoying your sin, weren't you?" Of course they relate to this. So, this brother should do the same. There is no more sickening sight I can think of than a dog at his vomit. Even your own dog is enough to knock you out. So, that is why the Lord uses it. Very graphic desciption of what we look like, I'm sure. This guy has as good a chance at sainthood as anyone. But he's going to need constant prayer, so be that person and see what happens. Also, checking up on him with a freindly phone call of encouragement can't hurt. Remember that every sinful person in the world will be offering him whatever it takes to get him back, and the brethren checking in show that person that God is looking out after them, and they know it. John Donne who did l6 years in a dungeon in England in the 1600's says of himself that in all of England surely there was no more debased or depraved man than he. I'm sure he meant it. Apparently in his preChristian years he had an enormous appetite for sins. The study of many men who have changed history as great men of God turns up more normal sinners to extreme sinners than life long "good people". And there are life-long good people. Most of them church raised and stayed that way. Why it works that way, that so many bad sinners make great saints, I don't know. Maybe the goody-goodie doesn't have that much to make up for, and the sinner knows he does. Who really knows. But I think a ministry of prayer for people is every bit as worthwhile as those out in the streets speaking face to face. With no prayer to back up those face to face conversions, half of them will fail anyway. Each conversion is a miracle. A flat out miracle.