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To: David M Gambs who wrote (47401)2/7/1998 7:06:00 PM
From: Barry Grossman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
David, << they are not the subject of anti-trust probes like MSFT is>>

Wrong. They are also subject to a current probe.

Re Microsoft and DOJ:

Microsoft and the DOJ are coming out on the opposite sides of who can innovate their products and who can control the innovation. IMO, this is something that Microsoft can never give up on and consequently this issue will inevitably be decided by our highest court. Fundamental issues are at stake. Also - IMO, the DOJ is wrong and will ultimately lose their case.

Barry



To: David M Gambs who wrote (47401)2/8/1998 6:32:00 PM
From: Jeff Fox  Respond to of 186894
 
David, re: MS vs Intel business strategies

Thank you for your insightful and well written post. Very informative for all and well thought. Your references are (appear to me) accurate. Nice to read stuff from which I can learn rather than the frequent mindless banter. Your post does a great job at characterizing the DOJ's challenge as well as how Intel operates differently, and I must say far more ethically than others.

Of course as always things are not fully black and white. For instance I judge Apple as chiefly responsible for its own problems. MS even critically helped Apple by releasing Excel as a "killer ap" exclusive to Apple MAC for a significant time period.

I am troubled by MS actions for the reasons you describe so well. On the other hand I respect their market aggressiveness in literally driving new levels of application into a market that is generally reluctant to change. Overall I am worried, but think we all are better off for the contributions of Microsoft. (BTW, I do own MS stock as well as Intel). Perhaps the DOJ action can achieve some solution, one that will allow continuing entrepreneur software venturing without the destruction of the MS engine? I remember the IBM action and feel its outcome was negative to all parties.

Also, you should know that a while ago the DOJ announced that it is collecting information (investigating) Intel. This seems to be on a very low burner at DOJ. Perhaps they have found out about Intel what you have described in your post. In my opinion Intel is in no way a legitimate target for antitrust.

Jeff