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To: Brumar89 who wrote (1340853)

2/3/2022 7:48:44 AM

From: Broken_Clock

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"It was JFK who got us into the VN war."
Did you get your masters degree in American history from CrackerJax? JFK was the third president involved in VN.

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Vietnam: U.S. Advisors 1955-1965The U.S. military advisory effort in Vietnam had a modest beginning in September 1950, when the United States Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG), Vietnam, was established in Saigon. Its mission was to supervise the issuance and employment of $10 million of military equipment to support French legionnaires in their effort to combat Viet Minh forces. By 1953 the amount of U.S. military aid had jumped to over $350 million and was used to replace the badly worn World War II vintage equipment that France, still suffering economically from the devastation of that war, was still using.

US Military Advisor Captain Willem Hamel, 1st Special Forces Group (1st SF/A-123 Team) working with ARVN soldiers in Hoa Cam training center, Quang Nam Province, Vietnam, March 1962.

Today in WW II: 31 Jan 1942 End of Operation Barbarossa. German Wehrmacht casualties exceed 900 thousand out of 3 million soldiers in action on the Eastern Front. More? [/table>

Political Background to American Advisors in VietnamIn September 1954, right after the <a href="https://olive-drab.com/od_history_vietnam_french.php"]Geneva Accords were signed on 20 July 1954, dividing Vietnam into north and south at the 17th parallel, President Dwight D. Eisenhower wrote to the new Prime Minister of the Bao Dai government, Ngo Dinh Diem, promising United States support to ensure a noncommunist Vietnam. Following through on that commitment, direct United States aid to South Vietnam began in January 1955, and American advisors began arriving in February to train the South Vietnamese army.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (1340853)	2/3/2022 5:47:02 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579842

Tenchu's Thoughts: Why Should We Give A Brandon About Ukraine, Part 3 - The Lessons of Vietnam I was just told by the resident Trump-hating chickenhawk that my comparison to Vietnam is invalid, because we were "that close to winning" there. Funny thing is that I've heard that argument before. PragerU has a wonderfully-produced video on it. The Truth about the Vietnam War - YouTube Think about that, though. We were THAT close to "winning" the war in Vietnam, until the peaceniks with the help of the mainstream media snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The result is the same, though. We lost that war. No one disputes that. How close we were to actually "winning" it is a matter of academic debate. And even then, we lost over 47,000 troops there. And we committed countless acts of wartime atrocities there. Nothing changes that fact. *All for what? A Domino Theory that proved to be bullshit.* Fast-forward to today. Vietnam seems to be doing just fine. They look like Korea in the late 80's, which is quite remarkable for a southeastern Asian nation, especially one that was devastated by war. They're even becoming a viable alternative for overseas manufacturing. "Made in Vietnam" is becoming more common these days. It just proves to me every day that the Domino Effect never happened. The consequences of losing Vietnam were contained to that country and that country alone. Of course, we also ended up embarrassing ourselves, as Vietnam turned out to be the first and only war we lost in all of American history. But we survived that. We still won the Cold War. We still ended up as the lone superpower in the world. Even Russia and China are still struggling to catch up. *Domino Effect 3.0* Now that the drums of war are being beaten in Ukraine, the left-wing peaceniks are all becoming hawks. Comparisons with Nazi Germany and Neville Chamberlain's "Peace of our time" speech are being tossed out like candy, and we're asked to get in the van. Domino Effect 3.0 is now in full effect, and the sooner we can stop that first domino from falling, the easier it will be to stop that evil Putin from resurrecting the Soviet Union. Sound familiar? You betcha. But don't worry. We aren't sending any troops into harm's way. Just like how Vietnam started. We're just sending military aid and advisors there. Isn't that also how Vietnam started? To quote JFK back in 1961, "To introduce U.S. forces in large numbers there today, while it might have an initially favorable military impact, would almost certainly lead to adverse political and, in the long run, adverse military consequences." I'll just leave with a quote from President Brandon: Biden Says Kabul Is No Saigon - WSJ Remember that the next time Brandon's supporters deny any comparisons with Vietnam. Tenchusatsu