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To: Steve who wrote (978)	2/8/1998 12:14:00 AM
From: gtoland	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6464

It is similar to what Ballard Power does with it's technology, IMO. I'm planning on attending the test in Fontana on Tuesday to see for myself how it works and the performance of the Geo. gary :)

To: Steve who wrote (978)	2/8/1998 12:19:00 AM
From: Ken Carter	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 6464

Steve, (This is not pointed at you, your note was the last one on the BB.) It always amazes me at the number of people that come onto a topic once a stock has taken off and start to Bash it over and over and over... PAID bashers... can anyone guess who they are.... I always wanted to know how much you get paid to spend time on a public BB and try to instill fear into people that have spent the last 2 months making 2000+ % on their investment. I would say that those that found this little gem earlier should be patting themselves on their backs!! I only wish I had found it myself! If your not a paid basher, then your probably "hoping that you can help drive the price down a little so that you may get your chance to buy in... In that case, the way this stock traded last week, you may still get your chance... you just have to be QUICK! All those talking about Stock Manipulation, what happened, couldn't get your broker to fill your order fast enough and the stock ran away from you... or maybe you just couldn't resist the sharp rise in the stock and you chased it and now your holding a stock you paid 3.00 for? Hay, that happens when you chase a stock and don't pay attention... I hope BAAT takes off next week, not because I have a large investment in it, (I don't) but because I would love to see all the bashers bashed! Good luck to those that believe, Good luck also to those that don't~ Ken Carter

To: Steve who wrote (978)	2/8/1998 12:29:00 AM
From: Trumptown	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6464

Steve, You're missing my point. I agree that a UNIQUE mechanical part (ie a mouse trap, a paper clip, a staple) is patentable. But, today's cars have intake and exhaust manifolds, as well as crank shafts and cam shafts. These guys are talking about MODIFICATIONS to existing mousetraps, not new mousetraps. To me, that sounds difficult to protect (btw I happen to be a mechanical engineer). On that same line of thought, if someone wants to copy it, all they have to do is change a little something (like BAAT is) This coupled with the small diesel vs gas enging test run and all the hype made me suspicious. I Looked the website over very carefully. Those are some pretty cheezy pictures...not many BAAT logos on the products etc. Don't get caught up in the hype, and don't bet what you can't afford to loose.

To: Steve who wrote (978)	2/8/1998 12:47:00 AM
From: Gutterball	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6464

I tend to agree and I believe Joe is on the right track. I thought his comment, "patents only give the right to sue" perceptive. And I have known several companies that have filed first and have lost their patent or are in the process of loosing it because of some of the reasons Joe mentions (e.g., RMTR loosing FRAM to National Semi). That ad on TV about Alexander G Bell filing first is not how things work. And Patent disputes are long processes and are sometimes settled by one company buying the other out (e.g., INTC bot the rights of Alpha from DEC) etc. While patents are an important part of business, getting there first (e.g., Tues trial) will go a long way in securing BAAT's technology. No one else has acomplished this feat in a public demonstration and it will make their claims appear all the more truthful. You know, T Edison had to build 98 light bulbs before he got it to work. Later, when asked about his patent, he said, I know 97 ways it doesn't work". A lot of that applies here. Filing every step of the would have muddied the water as well as tip a lot of wantabees off. As a infamous president once said, "Let's get it right before we tell the people". I'm glad to see this debate on BAT, this is how we sort things out. This little testing period we are in will either help sustain the technology or make it forgotten quickly. I can't help recalling the hoopla in the scientific community and then the press when Ponds and Flieshman (I believe that was their names) came out with their theories on cold fusion. After they were turned every which way but loose, It was decided it didn't work and they were quickly forgotten. Personally, I'd like to see BAT win one for the Gipper. If they are right, it doesn't say much for the Big 3 except they have become placent in their thinking. And with El Nino brewing off the West Coast, I believe it is time for a breath of fresh air. Joe, the lone retired engineer/inventor is what America is all about.