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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (1345511)

2/28/2022 4:49:08 PM

From: Broken_Clock

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proven: Ukraines does use neo-nazis to "pacify" eastern Ukraine's Russian ethnic peoples

Proven by who? Why should that justify a full-scale invasion?
https://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=33731930

proven: NATO does want Ukraine in NATO

So what? If somehow Ukraine repels this Russian invasion, they will WANT to be part of NATO, barring any cease-fire provisions.

https://taibbi.substack.com/p/putin-the-apostate?utm_source=url

Putin the Apostate

We thought he would be our bastard. Then, he became his own bastard.

Matt Taibbi

2 hr ago

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The president of the Council of Foreign Relations, Richard Haass, made an extraordinary statement over the weekend. “Just days ago much of the world was focused on the unwanted prospect of regime change in Ukraine,” he tweeted. “Now the conversation has shifted to include the possibility of desired regime change in Russia.” Senior Brookings Institute fellow Benjamin Wittes was even more explicit:

Benjamin Wittes @benjaminwittes
Regime change: Russia.
February 27th 2022

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For anyone expecting me to be outraged about this — I am, after all, almost daily denounced as a Putin-lover and apologist, so surely I must want the Great Leader to stay in power forever — I have to disappoint. If Vladimir Putin were captured tomorrow and fired into space, I wouldn’t bat an eye.

I would like to point out that we already tried regime change in Russia. I remember, because I was there. And, thanks to a lot of lurid history that’s being scrubbed now with furious intensity, it ended with Vladimir Putin in power. Not as an accident, or as the face of a populist revolt against Western influence — that came later — but precisely because we made a long series of intentional decisions to help put him there.

Once, Putin’s KGB past, far from being seen as a negative, was viewed with relief by the American diplomatic community, which had been exhausted by the organizational incompetence of our vodka-soaked first partner, Boris Yeltsin. Putin by contrast was “a man we can do business with,” a “liberal, humane, and decent European” of “alert, controlled poise” and “well-briefed acuity,” who was open to anything, even Russia joining NATO. “I don’t see why not,” Putin said. “I would not rule out such a possibility.”

The New York Times Magazine, noting that the KGB of the seventies that Putin joined was no longer really a murder factory but just another “thinking corporation,” even compared him once to Russia’s first true Western-looking leader:

In him, Russia has found a humane version of Peter the Great, a ruler who will open the country to the influence of a world at once gentler and more dynamic than Russia has ever been.

I’ve been bitter in commentary about Putin in recent years because I never forgot the way the West smoothed his rise, and pretends now that it didn’t. It’s infuriating also that many of us who were critical of him from the start are denounced now as Putin apologists, I think in part because we have inconvenient memories about who said what at the start of his story. The effort to wipe that history clean is reaching a fever pitch this week. Before they finish the job, it seemed worth getting it all down....

And even then, who is going to enforce said provisions?

proven: Putin is keeping his word

He's keeping his word like a thug keeps his word when threatening the lives of innocent people.

When you have a guy like that who can interpret anything and everything as a "threat" to Russia's security, "keeping his word" means nothing.

See above. Putin is sick of western lies. The difference between him and many other former "allies" of the US is that he is smarter, Russia is not the paper tiger that VZ, Libya, Iraq, etc. were...

Tenchusatsu