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To: Norman Klein who wrote (2692)	2/10/1998 10:03:00 PM
From: savolainen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9236

[lucent] greetings norman, how are you holding up? seems like the thread is almost back to normal...only 6 posts today.. <g> have started collecting info on uawg/g.lite... know you have seen much of this... in any case, thought i'd pass some notes along... was surprised on rereading the stuff myself, how the lu angle seemed more important the second time around... fwiw: first in terms of the standards process... basically it looks like when the dust settles universal adsl "contributions" will be absorbed into the g.lite subcommitee's work which most probably will end up as a subset of the existing standard (T1.413)... which means dmt line code... (good for awre and orctf) also the timeframe for developing g.lite standards seems to have stretched out.. starting to sound reasonable/realistic... time will tell.. the uawg will "develop a set of contributions that build on the existing American National Standards Institute T1.413 standard and propose it to the International Telecommunications Union's G.lite subcommittee" sometime in March(?).. .. "An approved multicompany standard could be available before the end of 1998..." techweb.com "The group (uawg) says Universal ADSL modems will be available by 2000 ." techweb.com altho detail is scarce, after a quick first pass, it looks like the g.lite dmt silicon players furthest along are the same players as those for dmt adsl with one very important newcomer dmt adsl silicon players : alcatel, adi/aware, fujitsu/orctf, pair, and ti... adi/aware and fujitsu/orctf are the only parties to have publicly shown working splitterless prototypes... pair and ti have announced silicon that will support g.lite... alcatel has been pretty quiet... have only said that they "will work on implementing g.lite in its DSLAM (DSL access multiplexer) equipment."... but they undoubtedly have/are working on something. and new to the party for g.lite: lucent... and they look like they're ready to rumble... lucent: "... Lucent Technologies' microelectronics group threw its hat in the ring with a proposal for "WildWire," a splitterless ADSL with 1.5-Mbit/second downstream capability, based on discrete multitone (DMT) coding. Lucent is already showing prototypes of a complete chip set with general-purpose DSP, data converters and line drivers... Lucent will bring several proposals before G.Lite "at the appropriate time," Brizel said. He added that chip sets will sample in the third quarter, and that many system products may arrive before a standard exists...." techweb.cmp.com "Lucent Technologies Inc. will tout its WildWire splitterless DSL chip set, which offers speeds of 1.5M bps and includes 56K-bps technology. The chip set will cost about $50 and is due in the third quarter, said sources close to the company..." Message 3255861 and for context: "...Bell Labs, Lucent's research and development arm, invented DSL technology and owns several fundamental patents..." biz.yahoo.com look at the arrival of lucent as both good and bad news... the bad news is that they are going to present very serious competition (for everyone)... the good news is that they will keep everyone honest in engineering terms, on track for dmt g.lite and (hopefully) on track for a nonproprietary solution (tho this may be not entirely good news for awre)... after the 56k wars lu knows only too well what is at stake... the lu inclusion of 56k technology in their splitterless adsl chipset might be an interesting angle to keep an eye on... if this becomes important, dance partners will need to be pairing up... also think lu might need to be pedaling as fast as they can to catch up with established dmt players (such as adi/awre)... the lu chipset doesn't sound all that integrated, but the price certainly sounds right... guess we'll know in about 9 mo... should be an interesting year.. best wishes, s