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To: Ara who wrote (1048)	2/8/1998 11:37:00 PM
From: David McCleary	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6464

Ara, you sure know alot about engines. I wonder how Lockheed could have made such a bonehead mistake as to think BAT's engine could actually work when they had you here all along to set them straight! Geez, what WAS Lockheed thinking! (I hope you all know that was sarcasm!) Let's face it, until we see the technology for ourselves, speculating on how it works is humerously in vain. The potato up the tailpipe analogy made me laugh at how some people will try to make ANYTHING look bad! Ara, do you really think Lockheed would have facilitated the use of this technology to a car company, or that the car could get 100mpg, if it was the equivelant to a potato up the tailpipe?? Com'on now, let's use a little common sense here. Dave

To: Ara who wrote (1048)	2/9/1998 12:39:00 PM
From: shashyazhi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6464

Ara, the airflow through an internal combustion engine is NOT unidirectional, despite your wish that it would be. Various forms of valve arrangements attempt, but fail to completely prevent reverse flow. Technology involving computer controlled exhaust throttling valves has been available from Japan for nearly fifteen years. One company produced it under two different names. PowerValve is one name and ExUp is the other one. I have a vehicle equipped with ExUp in my garage right now. The exhaust throttling valve never completely closes, as in your "potato" analogy. It is about one- third open at idle, and, as the computer senses rpm increase, it opens fully. The exhaust throttling valve increases the low-end torque of the engine, and the gas mileage is increased from 38 miles per gallon to 45 miles per gallon. The exhaust throttling valve helps to eliminate the flat spot in the torque curve which is caused by reverse flow at about 5500 to 7000 rpm. I am sure that if this company ever went to fuel injection, the mileage would get into the middle 50's, because reverse flow through the throttle bodies would have no effect. That's right, Ara, I said reverse flow. In some engine designs, air passes through the carburetors up to four times! And, on each pass, more fuel is added to the mixture, because the carburetor is a dumb device that doesn't know about reverse flow. In fact, with the air cleaners off the carbureted engine, a fog of fuel air mixture could be seen outside the carburetors in one particular design. The manufacturers eventually added a one-way valve between the carburetors and the cylinders, but it took ten years to do it, because the public wasn't complaining about fuel mileage, they were complaining about low-end throttle response. And it took another ten years to get the exhaust throttling valve technology onto the street. It had been thoroughly proven off-road by this company which does research and development for Toyota, but which is also widely known for its musical instruments. And every one of its competitors has adopted an exhaust throttling system for its off-road vehicles. But, then again, I don't know a thing about engines...