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To: marcher who wrote (185564)3/20/2022 12:27:08 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219167
 
<u.s. media bias/propaganda about 'russia' has been so severe/inaccurate my
entire life that i am very skeptical about anything 'reported' about 'russia'>

You could say the same about US propaganda about "Iraq" and "Iran", for example. But was Saddam right about burning up Kuwait? Which is similar to what Russia is doing to Ukraine now.

-Arun



To: marcher who wrote (185564)3/20/2022 12:31:36 PM
From: arun gera  Respond to of 219167
 
"free-speech in the u.s. is not what it used to be."

What with Fox news primary anchor taking Russia's side in the war between two countries far away? Can one be more free than that?

Free speech is still there. But it is drowned out by propaganda.

-Arun



To: marcher who wrote (185564)3/20/2022 12:46:48 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219167
 
<the russian view seems to be that russia is protecting itself,
similarly to what the u.s. would do (did during the cuban missle crisis) in a similar situation and this has
nothing to do with empire building.>

I can't understand this position. So Russia has the right to be afraid. And Iraq does not?

Or 19th century empires (and their successors) are allowed to be afraid and take whatever pre-emptive actions they want when other legitimate nations are not allowed.

Or nuclear powers such as Russia are allowed to take the world to the brink of nuclear war, but other equally populated nations such as Pakistan are not?

So you are just justifying that 19th century empires have special rights. And those rights extend infinitely into the future, even though USSR and its political model collapsed on its own. How did Russia acquire the legitimate rights to its former USSR republics?

It is like the Turkish empire collapsed in the early 20th century and now Iraq (its partial successor) wants it back. After all Kuwait was part of the same Turkish empire.

Or you are saying might is right. Then you believe in realpolitic. In that case the NATO alliance is more right (more money, more countries, more military) than the Russian empire and we should get popcorn and watch till nuclear war ends everything.

-Arun



To: marcher who wrote (185564)3/20/2022 12:55:20 PM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 219167
 
<there are reports, posted on this thread, that indicate putin/russia acted 'diplomatically' with ukraine for
many years but that ukraine did not follow diplomatic agreements, especially in relation to attacks on the
pro-russia border states. this seems to be the russian perspective.>

And you believe the Russian perspective. when they are denying that there is a war against Ukraine - only a special operation. Why are you so ready to believe another country which has used propaganda to even greater degree than the West? I agree that the Russian viewpoint is not really represented in the US, but it looks like the Russian propaganda seems to find its way into the US. And now Fox news is ready to justify that Russia invaded due to biological labs in Ukraine.

-Arun



To: marcher who wrote (185564)3/20/2022 1:01:47 PM
From: arun gera  Respond to of 219167
 
<which 'largest country in the world' metric are you referring to?>

By land mass. Russia is twice as large as the second largest country by land mass - Canada.

en.wikipedia.org

Russia already has borders with 18 countries, With Ukraine's conquest there will be a few more countries added. Now Russia has reasons to be afraid of even more countries being at its border.

-Arun