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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (186544)4/18/2022 3:51:02 AM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation

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dvdw©

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Re <<I can see why Putin says negotiation is pointless = they don't have a listen and understand function.>>

Again, w/o taking sides on a conflict my dog is not explicitly involved in, and remaining agnostic on the eventually determined why's, whereof's and who did what's when's, I note that in order to have a meaningful negotiation that is full of points, all parties to the conflict, and those hidden behind the parties to the conflict, must come to the table, flushed out of hiding places if need be, by use of arms if necessary, and the populations that put whatever set of leaders made to pain, by inflations, shortages, and whatever other means, else, for sure, negotiation is pointless.

Another way, generically speaking, to make negotiations meaningful is to get to the point of one side about to win and the other close to lost.

Apparently, in the Ukraine situation, neither side is ready to negotiate, and practically speaking, without a change of governments all around, no leadership can afford to enter negotiations from position of perceived weakness.

Negotiation, the meaningful sort, shall happen, just not soon, my guess, because the conditions for such is not yet in place.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (186544)4/20/2022 12:49:42 PM
From: sense1 Recommendation

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Haim R. Branisteanu

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Russia is going to have to go nuclear since they have no hope...

And you think other people are: "Russia mass formation psychosis...full blown rabid" ?

Some in Russia apparently expect nuclear threats will intimidate others into submission... and they won't... but, going that route will instead ensure it happens... because the morons driving this want that outcome... as is almost always going to be the case in structuring any "let's you and him fight" arrangement...

Putin is setting up Russians for extinction... as that's obviously the plan... since others desire gaining control of Russia's resources... and have no intention of paying market prices for them... exactly as they are not, already, today...

The peaceful end to the Cold War that was engineered... by sane people... was working out fine for everyone... including Russia... and China. But, insane people seeking to "win the peace"... will destroy far more than "the peace"... but, also, the prize.

Given how well things have gone thus far... for overly predictable Russia and its dullard leadership... a choice between giving "them" the excuse they so clearly want... to make Moscow into a smoking glowing crater... or, just declare victory, let Ukrainians live without Russian overlords... and continue getting filthy rich from selling Russia's production in necessary resources... seems a fairly obvious choice to SANE people... but, they're clearly counting on that Russian choice... the predictable... to lean in favor of doing what any street thug would do... instead of what's smart...

The obvious in the contretemps... is the Hobson's choice enabled in... getting rid of the sources of the global financial oppression.. in the deal on offer posturing as offering that.... requiring replacing it with submission to a different crew, also team WEF players... demanding carte blanche in imposing a different brand of oppression... that includes a new and far more pernicious financial oppression...

Fuck that shit... and fuck Joe Biden, fuck Vladimir Putin, and fuck Claus Schwab... while leaving that list open ended as required to included all the various pot stirrers...

I'm not going along with ANY of you nut jobs... posturing choices between which brand of oppression to agree to approve...or face financial annihilation, Covid annihilation, nuclear annihilation, or whatever "clever" bullshit team WEF comes up with as a threat, next...

And, they want to pretend this is "adult leadership"...

Patience is running out... along with time... and that's probably the only thing everyone will agree on...