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To: carranza2 who wrote (761856)	4/23/2022 11:21:11 AM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	1 Recommendation Recommended By greenspirit Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793718

It is a very effective propaganda technique to convince sheeple that they are doing the right thing, that they are virtuous by demanding war against Putin ...show me a legitimate US poll which favors sending US troops to the war in the Ukraine. forbes.com

To: carranza2 who wrote (761856)	4/23/2022 12:14:58 PM
From: skinowski	2 Recommendations Recommended By frankw1900 SirWalterRalegh Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793718

Thank you for posting the Mearsheimer interview. He is the best, sanest and wisest political thinker we have. That said — to get it out of the way, while I agree with him very much - I think that letting Ukraine keep the Soviet nukes after independence was hardly an option. It is a country where a bizarro character like George Soros could come, spend whatever amount of money - and prepare all those orange jackets, tents, coffee cups - and overthrow a democratically newly elected president. The Maidan was a repeat performance - with a little help and a nudge and a wink - plus some precision tailored violence - and the entire government was overthrown. With, btw, some extreme elements, representing a tiny minority of Ukrainians - joining the new government. Nope, those kinds of players can’t have nukes. Of course, it’s clearer now, after the fact. About Russia's turn to the East - I think that may have made their imperative of not allowing Ukraine join NATO even more important. Failing to keep nato from setting up shop to the East from Moscow would be a sign of monumental weakness. Mearsheimer brought up nuclear weapons several times. I think they are an enormously important factor - and if Russia begins to lose this war, they may escalate to small nukes - and threaten the West if they reciprocate. The danger is real - and acting as if it doesn’t exist is plain idiotic. He hasn’t spelled it out, but following his logic, it becomes clear that if Russia wins, that would be an embarrassment for the US and NATO strategists. But, if Russia loses, it would be over for them as a great power. Quite likely, Russia may end up falling (or taken) apart into smaller jurisdictions. So, here’s the math - embarrassment versus an existential threat. All this is a very dangerous situation. I keep saying - we are living through a period of the highest probability of nukes being used - since 1945.