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Politics : The Trump Presidency -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: i-node who wrote (234742)4/28/2022 7:57:19 PM
From: Wharf Rat4 Recommendations

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"the coup plotters had a great disinformation campaign which is still executing."

Can we agree that Trump is the coup plotter-in-chief?



To: i-node who wrote (234742)4/29/2022 8:37:07 AM
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I've changed my mind on your question. If Trump had truly believed a coup was taking place, he should have given up his life on the streets of DC fighting it. Not fled to FL to play golf and barge in on weddings.

But then Trump was/is a chicken shit coward.



To: i-node who wrote (234742)4/29/2022 8:52:45 AM
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Obviously, the point is this is precisely what happened with Trump.

Except that it wasn't.

No one tried to extralegally get him out of the office he held before the end of his term, to which he was entitled, ergo no insurrection, no coup. What you are referring to would, instead, be denying him another term. Were that done extralegally, that would not fit your question because Trump held no office from which to vacate. Denying someone occupation of an office is not the same thing as forcing someone to vacate the office already held. You have to hold the office before a coup can remove you from it. Your question does not apply to Trump beyond the term in which he held office.

Is it a president's responsibility, if he reasonably believes there is a coup in progress, to refuse to vacate the office?


Perhaps you'd like to reframe the question. From your context, I suggest:

is it the responsibility of a candidate who thinks he lost an election unfairly to stage a coup to gain it?