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To: TimF who wrote (762878)	5/15/2022 9:21:00 AM
From: rxbond	2 Recommendations Recommended By 3bar Maurice Winn Respond to of 793963

The war could be stopped in 10 mins. Thats simply done by replacing politics, binary solutions and lunacy with common sense, an array of open endless options/solutions and normal discussion. Reference: 2016 to 2020

To: TimF who wrote (762878)	5/15/2022 11:28:39 PM
From: Maurice Winn	8 Recommendations Recommended By 3bar aladin frankw1900 fred woodall Hoa Hao and 3 more members Respond to of 793963

Invading sovereign countries is fine Tim. USA/UK are good at it. No worries. Syria, Iraq, Libya ... We came, we saw, he died ... cackle cackle cackle.... Which of course didn't go well for a couple of USA soldiers stuck on the roof or Hillary's great friend Chris who she was too busy being drunk and asleep at 3am to answer the phone. The Vietnamese turned out to be dissatisfied with the USA invasion too. Grenaada. Afghanistan was a sovereign nation too though some Saudis did hide out there while they did a Saudi/Egyptian attack on USA in 2001. You mistakenly think Russia invaded Crimea. Not so. Google can tell you the history of Crimea. Russians have occupied it for centuries as their Black Sea southern port Sevastopol. It was full of Russians. In 2014, after the USA coup in Kiev [interfering in foreign elections is apparently okay if done by Victoria Nuland and Peace Prize 0bama], and before Ukraine moved to terminate the Russian lease of Sevastopol and before the Azov brigades could start marching and killing, Russia annexed Crimea back into Russia where it was before the paperwork move to Ukraine province of USSR. Russians wounded and killed my great great grandfather when he tried to defeat them in 1856 Crimean War by Great Britain. Russia has been big in that region for centuries. Ukraine started big aggro against Russians in the east after the coup. Then the Minsk truce. Then the aggro was being geared up again by Kiev and USA supervisors [the slush fund bribery and corruption providers]. Russia decided, like Kennedy in regard to Cuba, that enough was enough and it was time to get MAD. Note that Ukraine is a LOT closer to Russia than Cuba is to USA. And Americans were not being attacked in Cuba by Cuban boss man Fidel. Unlike in Donetsk by boss man in Kiev, where Russians were getting aggro. USA could stop the war in 1 minute. "Hey Zel, we're turning off the loot and launchers tap right now." Sonofabitch, they decided that the fighting was a bad idea after all and called for elections in Donetsk and Luhanks and UN supervision. Putin would agree. Or else. Tell Putin stop fighting or we go MAD now - directly, no proxies. And he can start selling everything again to anyone. And can go on holiday anywhere. Oligarchs can sail away. No need for Ukrainian surrender. Just like England didn't surrender when Sinn Fein just won and northern Ireland election. And England didn't surrender when Scotland voted to stick with United Kingdom. Just like when England voted for Brexit - Eurostan didn't surrender, abject or otherwise. I don't know where you live, but there's a thing called democracy which has been popular in a few civilized countries for well over 100 years. Heck, even for women though that's going a bit far to let them vote, I guess you agree. Democracy and voting have been found to be a good way of sorting things out without the need for murdering opponents, though that has happened - India, Pakistan, heck even USA has had the odd assassination. What they could do in the disputed areas, as in the new countries of Yugoslavia, is have elections in the eastern provinces to see what the people living there think. The new countries of Yugoslavia have mostly been quite peaceable compared with the horrible civil war of the 1990s. Elections help a lot. I know it's hard to imagine new things like voting. Especially if the idea of Tradable Citizenship is added. But stone age murdering is nowhere near as good. Mqurice