To: TobagoJack who wrote (188354 ) 6/4/2022 11:02:59 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217738 Permafrost and wells being shut down, hopefully temporarily. It's all a matter of the individual well and its design. Unlike water pipes that can burst on freezing, because water expands as it goes into solid state, oil doesn't freeze and expand bursting pipes. But there are problems in cold. Some oil is really thick and gooey. In Venezuela for example, there's really tarry stuff which BP Oil International developed by pumping water and surfactant down the well to form Orimulsion [ask Google]. Orimulsion was about 30% water which formed the carrying medium for drops of gooey oil. It could be pumped straight into a ship, carted to a power station, and burned with the water in it for an energy loss of only 3% [due to evaporating the water]. Orimulsion was never turned into a mainline commercial product but by crikey it could now at $120 a barrel. I invented a method in 1986 for compressing and piping CO2 exhaust gas 400 metres under the ocean so that it wouldn't add to CO2 in air. I told a couple of visiting Mitsubishi engineers [with whom BP had a technology exchange agreement] and they patented it a couple of years later [but never used it]. A problem with Orimulsion was that if it froze in the pipes, that would be a big problem. Also, if the emulsion broke and it turned to tar in the pipe. The right surfactant in the right proportion, mixed right, at the right temperature was essential. For garden variety oil wells where it gets really cold, frozen oil in pipes would be a big problem if they were installed with the intention of never having thick gooey oil stop flowing. That might mean new wells would have to be drilled, or maybe hot stuff could be pumped into the pipes, or maybe a heating probe could be poked through the pipe to melt the goo. I have no idea how many wells might have what kind of problems if the flow stopped. I guess the problems would be not too bad or the engineers would ensure that such a flow stoppage wouldn't cause a major financial problem if flow stops. Interrupted flow in systems is normally expected and design is done so that it doesn't wreck everything. But I admit to gross ignorance about how many wells would have how much of a problem if flow is stopped for some time. Permafrost merely defines the water freezing zone and even if the ground isn't frozen, 10C might be too cold for flow to continue. I doubt the permanency of oil wells being stopped due to cold whether of permafrost or temporary cold. Keeping a pipeline's contents in liquid phase is not much of a technical challenge. If a well is wrecked, drill another parallel = no big problem. Meanwhile, Putin said that sales are booming and profits are extreme thanks to the $120 price which is a long way up from $10 a barrel and $20 a barrel during the covid panic and demand destruction. Mqurice