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To: skinowski who wrote (763601)6/5/2022 9:37:18 AM
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John Koligman

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I think "problematic process" isn't a very useful lens to view the war from. There is normally some process or problem that someone thinks is problematic when they decide to go to war. This war wasn't much different then any other in that regard. Putin seems to have thought the situation as problematic, but that amounts to not just sufficient reason for war but close to zero justification for war.

Problematic process, is rather unspecific, but apparently the problem in your opinion was Ukraine moving towards NATO membership, so I'll focus on that .Its not a justification for war on two different levels.

1 - Ukraine wasn't moving towards NATO in any significant way. Before 2014 only a minority in Ukraine even wanted NATO membership. (But Ukraine was moving towards EU membership something else Putin apparently hates) After 2014, it was pretty much locked out of NATO membership by it conflict with Russia.

2 - Moving towards NATO membership isn't justification for war. Ukraine is a sovereign country that has a right to its on foreign policy. Countries around Russia want NATO membership not as some conspiracy against Russia but in response to Russian bullying and aggression. Attacking a country because they are moving towards NATO membership is still naked aggression not a defensive act.