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To: kidl who wrote (494284)	7/10/2022 11:58:23 AM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 542129

European education is very different. Mechanical engineers must show proficiency in a machine shop before entering the "trade". I don't know if that has changed - but in the 1980's I was told that a mechanical engineer had to be able to make a "gauge block" (for those who don't know - a piece of steel that is so squarely made it sticks to other gauge blocks by what is still debated, but possibly quantum effects of Casimir forces, generated as they are simply twisted against one another). This was done by hand with nothing more than a file and a piece of steel. This was related to me by a master machinist who got a request by an electrical engineer of 45 years old to "turn the leads on a resistor on a lathe" to make them fit into the circuit board. I took welding, wood shop and machine shop in school unlike most of my friends who were taking AP courses. Which of us ended up becoming engineers? Me. A former enlisted Navy guy. They all became professionals but only one went onto become a scientist - my best friend. We select for our own kind.

To: kidl who wrote (494284)	7/10/2022 2:09:30 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist	Respond to of 542129

Structural engineers are usually not the skilled laborers implementing the plans. Both are necessary. One structural engineer for scores or more of needed laborers. There is already a shortage of such "workers" complicated and often filled by non-union immigrant labor. We need more pilots; the usual course is through the military. Perhaps more skills training and engineering and less social science to be a great pilot? Also complicated.