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To: Lane3 who wrote (243321)7/11/2022 3:09:25 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 353788
 
I thought I had made a very long post to you sometime yesterday on this. I'm not finding it so maybe I never finished it. It covered the relevant quotes from the case and a lot of the legal reasoning.

So, I'm assuming at this point you have not read that post OR the case. Recapping:

Wisconsin residents have no "right" under the law to deposit their votes into any "drop box". There is no concept of a drop box. Absentee ballots are to be "handed to" the elections administrator or an appointee. So, you cannot have a drop box sitting out front (of any place) that people drop ballots into. In Wisconsin, it proved prescient, but you can't have strangers delivering ballots to boxes. Anywhere.

However, elections personnel have been ignoring that specific legal require set out by the legislature. When it became apparent the drop boxes were being abused, someone apparently decided to sue over it, and the outcome is drop boxes effectively have to be manned by some person from the elections office.

That was a great post I made last night and you would have truly enjoyed it, I'm sure. Sorry it is now gone.

I will quote one passage from the decision I thought was excellent:

“If the right to vote is to have any meaning at all, elections must be conducted according to law,” she wrote. “Throughout history, tyrants have claimed electoral victory via elections conducted in violation of governing law. For example, Saddam Hussein was reportedly elected in 2002 by a unanimous vote of all eligible voters in Iraq (11,445,638 people). Examples of such corruption are replete in history. In the 21st century, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un was elected in 2014 with 100% of the vote while his father, Kim Jong-il, previously won 99.9% of the vote. Former President of Cuba, Raul Castro, won 99.4% of the vote in 2008 while Syrian President Bashar al-Assad was elected with 97.6% of the vote in 2007.”


In the end this decision may mean little, but I hope not. My hope is other states can take something away from it and develop an understanding that we have rights to vote but prescribed measures must be followed. And we don't have a "right" to vote by mail, or to use dropboxes or other systems that can lead to stolen votes and harvesting (and like it or not, 2000 Mules did zero in on some of that and in the future every drop box will be monitored, either privately or publicly funded).

The cheating was overwhelming in 2020, and this is one small bit of it.



To: Lane3 who wrote (243321)7/11/2022 4:03:09 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 353788
 
He doesn't understand the process. Either willfully or through honest to God ignorance. That has been the case ever since the 2020 election.