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To: TobagoJack who wrote (190127)	7/23/2022 5:47:44 AM
From: TobagoJack	1 Recommendation Recommended By marcher Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219500

Hmmmnnnn .... I think we know where GM got the components / batteries from The price will fall in the 600,000-700,000 RMB (94,000 – 110,000 USD) bracket, which means it will match the starting price of its American inspiration. autoevolution.com China Builds a Blatant Copy of the Hummer H1 That Soon Will Boast an Electric Powertrain by Cristian Agatie Chinese carmaker Dongfeng is building a Hummer H1 copy that also serves as a military vehicle, just like the Humvee. Perhaps the Chinese went a little too far this time, though, by building an electric truck based on the Humvee genes. You may call it a Chinese Hummer EV, but it is more than that. 8 photos Oversized trucks are something that the Chinese borrowed from the American culture, and they have now combined them with their fondness for electric vehicles. The result is an electric Humvee, but in a truck form, with a monstrous 1,070-horsepower electric powerplant. Essentially, this is an electric version of the M50 “Warrior” Dongfeng was already building for the wealthiest of the Chinese. Of course, the Chinese company goes even further, planning an entire EV lineup based on the Humvee copycat. For this, they will use a new “M” sub-brand, with the first model being a three-row six-seat SUV. This is something GM also plans, as their GMC Hummer EV will sport an SUV version soon. The Dongfeng M18 EV will in turn be more powerful, with an 800 kW (1,070 HP) electric motor and a 140-kWh battery that allows for a range of 311 miles (500 km). This combination will get it to 62 mph (100 kph) in under 5 seconds, so it’s no slouch. On the other side of the Pacific, the GMC Hummer EV boasts three electric motors with up to 1,000 HP. It seems the American Hummer will smoke the Chinese M18 with 3.0 seconds for the 0-60 mph (0-97 kph) performance and a bigger battery (350 kWh), although the range is not much higher, at 350 miles (563 km). This has to do with its 9,000 pounds(4,082 kg) weight, which trumps the Chinese Hummer by a whopping 2,600 pounds (1,179 kg). According to Car News China, the M18 will sport a new EV platform developed by Dongfeng, as well as a Level 2.5 autonomous driving system. The price will fall in the 600,000-700,000 RMB (94,000 – 110,000 USD) bracket, which means it will match the starting price of its American inspiration. Luckily for Dongfeng, the M18 will have no competitors in China. It comes as a surprise since this is not the only Humvee copycat out there, but it’s probably the only one with an electric powertrain.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (190127)	7/23/2022 7:16:18 AM
From: Julius Wong	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219500

Chinese batteries? Chinese chips? GM is happy to sell Electric Hummers.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (190127)	7/23/2022 8:05:50 AM
From: Julius Wong	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 219500

CATL chief scientist says energy dense M3P batteries are already in production, debut next year Following reports out of China earlier this month, battery behemoth CATL has confirmed the production of its M3P batteries that will deliver next year. Although the chemistry may be similar, CATL has said the M3P batteries vary from Lithium Manganese Iron Phosphate (LMFP) cells. Contemporary Amperex Technology Co Ltd., aka CATL, is a global energy technology company and the leading EV battery manufacturer in China. Beyond Asia, the company has retained its crown as the world’s largest battery manufacturer by installed capacity for a fifth-straight year. Earlier this month, rumors began to surface about CATL’s “M3P” batteries, which were briefly mentioned by the battery company in February amongst other upcoming technologies like sodium-ion batteries. The initial assumption was that CATL’s M3P chemistry was that of LMFP, as local Chinese media said the chemistry had passed interim tests earlier year and CATL would now be sending samples to automakers for further testing. As CnEVPost pointed out, a source close to CATL’s investor relations team revealed a day later that the company is fact developing its M3P batteries, but their chemistry is different from that of an LMFP battery. Now CATL has officially come out and confirmed just that, although we don’t know much else about these M3P batteries. CATL’s M3P batteries should cost less than LMFP chemistry At the 2022 World EV & ES Battery Conference in China yesterday, CATL chief scientist Wu Kai said the M3P batteries have already reached volume production and will hit the market in 2023. CATL chairman Robin Zeng also briefly mentioned the M3P batteries for the first time since February, but offered no additional details. What we’ve learned from investigative reports in China following the misreported news of the M3P batteries containing LMFP chemistry is that the former are similar, but not quite. CATL says the M3P cells also contain other metallic elements not present in LMFPs. Instead, the company prefers to refer to the upcoming technology as a “ternary lithium battery of the phosphate chemistry system,” according to a report from Gasgoo. Regardless of what makes up the M3P batteries, they are promised to deliver greater energy density than lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries, but at cost parity with ternary-lithium cells. We don’t yet know what that official density will be, but for comparison, LMFP batteries have a theoretical energy density that’s 15-20% percent higher than LFP batteries, but at a similar price point. Whatever CATL is doing differently in its proprietary M3P batteries, it appears to have help keep costs down – a big plus for EV innovation and hopefully less expensive EVs in the future. More details are sure to come as CATL looks to scale its latest battery technology to market next year. electrek.co