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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (497632)	8/27/2022 12:32:38 PM
From: epicure	1 Recommendation Recommended By Cautious_Optimist Respond to of 542108

Teachers need to be able to send students to remedial study groups- good ones, run by good people- immediately when a problem is perceived. The study groups need to be high quality and staffed by very good teachers- this would 1. preserve the ability of mainstream class teachers to get on with teaching the students who do not need intervention and 2. allow the students who do need intervention to be remediated fast and returned to the classroom. Behavior problems need to be removed immediately as well- and if they cannot behave, they need to be put in separate intensive classes with a therapy component. We know that kids with learning disabilities end up in prison by a much greater percentage than other students- we need to address that. For students totally uninterested in higher education, we should divert them to a trade at 15 or 16 with the consent of their family. This would be supportive of the rest of the students and very supportive of kids who cannot or will not conform to learning in school. I think the trades would be happy to help support this since they are screaming for new recruits.

To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (497632)	8/27/2022 2:57:34 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 542108

It doesn't have to be one or the other, it needs to be all of that. Yes, early intervention is critical, but so is everything all along the education spectrum. There a millions of people who would benefit from Free college right now. And that would benefit society. And all those other social needs are also important and we would have had them decades ago, if the Democrats had been in power. All those needed social programs ended with JFK and LBJ. Then the fucking Republican social wrecking ball took over and we still labor under its destruction! < Where I'm from, I would begin by investing the money in merely getting young people through high school. Especially of color, and other less privileged classes. Beginning with basic literacy and arithmetic. And safe schools. We must pay teachers better. Then we can talk college. Community college here (this year) is now free, including a meal a day for ANYONE who attends. We need early intervention for phucked-up kids; but there's no way all parents want schools to interfere with their PRIVATE "methods" and realities of child raising. And the Pandora's box -- as John Lennon said, "and no religion too." Let's leave that aside for now. Sometimes children become sociopaths and disruptive very young -- and the issues of mainstreaming vs. separating loom large. As does "intervention." The costs of our youth turning to drugs, crime or becoming chronically homeless are greater than the costs of all people not learning about philosophy and sociology at a university. We gotta start younger than universities or we shall surely become a caste system like India.