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To: skinowski who wrote (768833)	10/1/2022 4:10:15 PM
From: Hoa Hao	2 Recommendations Recommended By alanrs garrettjax Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793640

Here's an interesting article on the Cuban missile crisis and Jupiter missiles... theatlantic.com The Jupiter missiles were an exceptionally vexing component of the U.S. nuclear arsenal. Because they sat aboveground, were immobile, and required a long time to prepare for launch, they were extremely vulnerable. Of no value as a deterrent, they appeared to be weapons meant for a disarming first strike—and thus greatly undermined deterrence, because they encouraged a preemptive Soviet strike against them. The Jupiters’ destabilizing effect was widely recognized among defense experts within and outside the U.S. government and even by congressional leaders. For instance, Senator Albert Gore Sr., an ally of the administration, told Secretary of State Dean Rusk that they were a “provocation” in a closed session of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in February 1961 (more than a year and a half before the missile crisis), adding, “I wonder what our attitude would be” if the Soviets deployed nuclear-armed missiles to Cuba. Senator Claiborne Pell raised an identical argument in a memo passed on to Kennedy in May 1961 Remember Scott Ritter's comments about the US missile base in Poland and how we pulled out of the IMF treaty in August of 2019 And then there's the Hypersonics the Russians have but we don't thrown into the mix.

To: skinowski who wrote (768833)	10/1/2022 4:53:02 PM
From: aladin	1 Recommendation Recommended By sm1th Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793640

Some of the deep thinkers in our DoS need to be fired for stupidity. No kidding. Imagine if you will that a cargo ship is entering harbor in Cuba or Caracas in the near future. Its neutrally flagged so slipped through the fingers of our so called intelligence services. As a response to the Ukraine attempt to join NATO - Russia or some proxy sets up a missile base with both IRBM's and Satan Hypersonic missiles as well as anti-aircraft systems and the personnel to man them. Along with the rollout of those systems - aircraft and other personnel arrive. How do all our cold warriors here feel? Are you ok with that? Be careful with what you wish for in the Russia, Russia, Russia panic. I am no fan of Russia - but kicking a hornets nest, or jumping in to protect every corrupt regime on the planet is not a good strategy. Do we want the Russians interfering in areas we actually need to care about?