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To: Real Man who wrote (70987)	10/3/2022 3:51:08 PM
From: Lou Weed	1 Recommendation Recommended By Qone0 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 98121

<<What sources other than censored US media do you have?>> Well, I am currently housing a couple of Ukranian refugees in my basement apartment from the Donbas region, who are in daily touch with their friends/family. Mother and autistic son. She is originally Russian and the son born in Ukraine. Her sister (Russian also) lives in a town that was recently liberated by the Ukranians and she welcomed them with open arms. I won't bore you with the details of what life was like for her under Russian control as you already know better. The "Russians" in these areas are pawns for Putin's expansionist lust. By the way, if these Telegram channels are not in English and you can determine fact from fiction, I'm assuming that you're a fluent Russian and Ukranian speaker? If not you are relying on someone else's interpretation/translation. <<I have seen videos of Ukrainian shelling of Donbas and Luhansk on these channels and they don’t look fake>> I would bet 100% they're not fake also. I would believe they are showing the Ukranians firing on Russian positions. How else do you think they are going to recapture their own regions that were invaded by Russia?!? Go ahead, have the last word. I'll not add more to muddy up the thread with non-trading subject.

To: Real Man who wrote (70987)	10/3/2022 10:14:59 PM
From: TigerPaw	3 Recommendations Recommended By John Koligman Lou Weed towerdog Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 98121

I have seen videos of Ukrainian shelling of Donbas and Luhansk on these channels and they don’t look fake. Nobody disputes that Ukraine is shelling the russians. That's why the russians are retreating. If you watch your videos again you might notice that the shelling mostly falls on russian equipment, barracks, ammo dumps and the command posts. Russian shelling, if you look, is all over the place like a shotgun. Part of that is that the Ukrainians have accurate gps guided nato weapons and the russians are shooting surplus junk from 50 years ago or more.