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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (180396)10/12/2022 6:07:56 AM
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1. Nuclear war is to be avoided
2. You can't call Putin crazy and hold the position that he is only bluffing and would never use nukes
3. Yes, invasion was unjustified
4. It was not unprovoked, to the extent that Putin made clear what was unacceptable to Russia ...Ukraine inclusion in NATO and the
placing of offensive weapons on his border
5. There were also promises made to Russia
6. US has a history of trying to install favorites, meddling in elections ...neocons were involved in Ukraines so called color revolution
7. Boris Johnson acting at the behest of the US scuttled a settlement that was in process early
8. The media portrays on picture of Putin ... someone who wants to remake USSR and a madman, but never examine what he has said he wants
9. Ukraine is NOT winning
10. The danger of escalation, even if it doesn't result in nuclear exchange, is real and is the US primary interest
11. Negotiation is the way forward



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (180396)10/12/2022 6:31:28 AM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 220722
 
The late Heinz Blaznik wrote an excellent backgrounder piece on Ukraine many years ago that is still instructive regarding how the country was cobbled together with different ethnic groups ...resulting in ongoing tensions. He wrote this at the time either leading up to the color revolution or shortly after. Wish I could find it.

But the idea of Ukraine as some monolithic people is cr^p. The ethnic Russians in the east have been abused and despite what the MSM tells you, may indeed prefer to be a part of Russia. What about their rights and desire to live peacably?