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To: pocotrader who wrote (1377132)10/15/2022 5:03:58 PM
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To: pocotrader who wrote (1377132)10/15/2022 5:07:03 PM
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Why is the D party so supportive of the FBI then?



To: pocotrader who wrote (1377132)10/15/2022 5:11:10 PM
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For helping Ukraine for free, Musk gets added to the Uke nazi fascist kill list:

Elon Musk Alarmed After Apparent Inclusion On Well-Known Ukrainian 'Kill List'

by Tyler Durden

Saturday, Oct 15, 2022 - 10:00 AM

Elon Musk has publicly expressed alarm over his name and profile appearing to have been added to a well-known Ukrainian 'kill list', following controversy and outrage from Kiev over his prior "Russia-Ukraine peace poll" and subsequent threats to cut funding for Starlink satellite internet services deployed in the country.



On Friday, the billionaire SpaceX founder responded directly to a viral tweet by independent journalist Eva Bartlett which claimed "Musk added to Ukraine's Myrotvorets kill list (which includes 327 children!)," in which he asked her "is this list real?"

Is this list real? What’s the URL?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 14, 2022Musk later appeared to answer is own question in the affirmative, tweeting out a link to the 'kill list' website's Wikipedia page. The website within recent weeks fell into the spotlight after Pink Floyd's Roger Waters highlighted his own inclusion on the list.

"Concerning," Musk later wrote.



In the case of Waters, Louder Sound writes;

The 'list' that Waters is referring to is stored on the NSFW website Myrotvorets ('Peacemaker'), which, in addition to posting graphic photos of dead Russian soldiers, allegedly features around 187,000 names of people critical of the Ukrainian government, alongside their home address, phone numbers and contact details. The left-wing UK website The Canary actually identified Waters' name on the list in an article published in May, stating that the musician was on the database as he is accused of "Anti-Ukrainian propaganda. An attempt on the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Participation in attempts to legalize the annexation of Crimea by Russia."

Newsweek, meanwhile, in attempting to identify and verify the Ukrainian website suggested that it is independently-run, but at the same time kept open the question of whether it has direct links to the Ukrainian government:

As various media reports on Mirotvorets note, it is an NGO that keeps an open-sourced database of persons that it deems to have promoted anti-Ukrainian narratives or acted to destabilize Ukraine's national security. Since the start of the war, it also keeps count of the Russian soldiers and agents killed on its territory.

It was founded by a Ukrainian politician and activist Heorhiy/Georgiy Tuka. It has also been closely linked to politician Anton Gerashchenko, whom The Times of London in a recent interview referred to as a co-founder of the project.

According to Rolling Stone, "There is a list maintained by a far-right Ukrainian organization that contains hundreds of thousands of enemies of Ukraine, from alleged members of the Wagner private military company to journalists accused of cooperating with puppet governments in the Donbas region. The site, which has been roundly internationally condemned — but not taken down by the Ukrainian government itself — claims not to be a kill list but rather “information for law enforcement authorities and special services."

Concerning

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 14, 2022Newsweek highlighted that in some instances names of Ukrainians that had their names and addressed published as "collaborators" were hunted down and prosecuted, and that some turned up dead.

The Mirotvorets list has no official standing in Ukraine, though Al Jazeera, citing the rights group Uspishna Varta, reported that it had been used as evidence in more than 100 court cases against those suspected of involvement with pro-Russian paramilitaries.

In April 2015 two pro-Russian Ukrainians, politician Oleg Kalashnikov and publicist Oles Buzina, were shot dead in Kyiv.

Al Jazeera reported that the attacks took place just days after Mirotvorets published personal details, including addresses, about the two men, but no direct link has been found or proven in court. -Newsweek

And according to Mirotvorets' Wikipedia page, the site does maintain an "enemies of Ukraine" list, and has even come under censure from Western allies of Kiev, who find it somewhat of an uncomfortable embarrassment.

"The site has remained open despite repeated requests from the UN, G7 ambassadors, the EU and human rights groups to close it down, and although it has no official status, it acts to supplement government databases at checkpoints," the Wikipedia page which Musk refers to cites.

For those who say Ukraine's kill list *isn't* a kill list:

"...a screenshot from the Ukrainian site Myrotvorets, where the photo of Daria Dugina is crossed out and it says “liquidated”.
"They are openly flaunting her murder," the Russian envoy said."https://t.co/6CkLrIehAz pic.twitter.com/3kyxxyDfVr

— Eva Karene Bartlett (@EvaKBartlett) August 24, 2022Eva Bartlett herself, the journalist and pundit that Musk interacted with on Twitter, is reported to be on the kill list.

Screenshot of "liquidated persons" on the Myrotvorets site... names that appear were accused of publicly supporting Russia or of being "anti-Ukrainian", or being collaborators with the occupying Russian army.



While a screenshot of Musk profile on the kill list is now being widely circulated, his name may have only briefly appeared on the website, reportedly having been taken down quickly after it became focus of attention on social media.



To: pocotrader who wrote (1377132)10/15/2022 5:30:13 PM
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Oregon May Elect First GOP Governor In 35 Years

by Tyler Durden

Saturday, Oct 15, 2022 - 08:00 AM

Believe it or not, Oregon might just elect a Republican governor on Nov 8 -- thanks to a three-way race and voters fed up with crime, homelessness and public schools used as progressive indoctrination centers.

In recent weeks, Republican Christine Drazan, the former Oregon House minority leader, has opened a 3-point lead over Democrat Tina Kotek, a former state House speaker. If she wins, it would be the first Republican victory in a governor's race since 1982.

Republican gubernatorial candidate Christine Drazan (Jamie Valdez/Pool via AP)

"I'm very concerned," Greg Peden, an aide to a previous Democratic governor, tells ABC. "I think this is the tightest race we've seen and the most complex race we've seen."

Kotek's support is being sapped to some extent by a wave-making independent candidate, Betsy Johnson, a former state senator who held office as a Democrat. A recent Emerson College survey found that 9% of Republicans support Johnson, versus 17% of Democrats.

Running as a "pro-choice, pro-jobs" moderate who's held an A rating from the National Rifle Association, Johnson is currently polling at around 16%. That's well off her peak in the high twenties. However, as the independent's showing has waned, it's Republican Drazen who's moved into the overall lead, according to a polling average maintained by FiveThirtyEight.

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Drazan and Johnson have both hammered Democrat Kotek on festering crime and homelessness.

“Public safety has become the top issue in a way it didn’t used to be," GOP strategist Rebecca Tweed tells NBC News. "It really is a problem here in Oregon. It’s not just talking points.”



Drazan has also worked to tie Kotek to term-limited incumbent Democratic Governor Kate Brown, who has the highest disapproval rating of any American governor. Kotek's campaign, in turn, links Drazan to Donald Trump.

Oregon's wealthiest man, Nike co-founder Phil Knight, recently chipped in $1 million to Drazan's campaign. That's after he'd earlier backed independent Johnson with $3.75 million.

President Biden, who won Oregon by 16 points, is set to campaign for Kotek on Saturday.

"They are sending the president in right before the election and that only means one thing -- they recognize that they are in trouble," Oregon state Senator Tim Knopp, who represents the high-desert city of Bend, told KATU-TV.

On Tuesday, Republican Virginia governor Glenn Youngkin, who pulled off his own blue-state upset last year, will visit the Beaver State to campaign for Drazan.

Education factored heavily in Youngkin's victory, and it's a theme being emphasized by Drazan and by Johnson, who recently told Fox News that "people are frightened and they're mad" about what's happening in Oregon schools. "Let's not worry about pronouns. Let's worry about mathematics."