To: TobagoJack who wrote (192840 ) 10/23/2022 3:49:56 AM From: maceng2 Respond to of 217754 Ref Semiconductors: My historical viewpoint. Whatever happened to Intel? VIDEO Dear oh dear. I have been a fan of AMD processor chips since forever! An AMD diehard even. Intel was always the Big Dog on the street selling the better processor chips for a more money. Rich guys bought Intel processor chips. Poor guys bought AMD as they were "nearly as good as Intel" and cheaper. All the PC machines I bought or built were AMD, while my brother only bought Intel, and sure enough he has more money than I do. Then came Ryzen. What that really means is TSMC and that is really Chinese in geographic terms. (2019) AMD launches 'Milan' chip for data centers as battle with Intel intensifies | Reuters (2018) All Of AMD's 7nm Processors To Be Manufactured At TSMC (forbes.com) So, I am already in the Chinese camp regarding semiconductor manufacturing and never realised it -g- Here is a nice historical recap of the AMD vs Intel competition. VIDEO Historical note on 1970's problems with chips, referred to in above video. Sure, silicon chips are hard to make, but the late 1970's had a fashion where corruption and cheating were in vogue. That was the problem back then. It got cleaned up in the 1980's. The future: Eos etcVIDEO Yes, it was the Intel vs AMD debate that raged over the decades is what attracted me to the Yahoo stock market chat boards in the 1990's, and thus though an invite to S.I. The self built PC cabinet I have at the moment has dimensions to accept a cooler and the latest and greatest processor chip. I see not need to upgrade at the moment, the price of electricity being what it is. 50% processing power is waaaay more than needed for 99% of applications. 2026 TeoTwawKi ... 2032 Darkest Interregnum Message Board - Msg: 33787726 (siliconinvestor.com) Maybe if CSPR gets to $1.00 I may upgrade to the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, but maybe the USD will not be worth much at that point. Novabench CPU Benchmarks - Compare top processors Novabench - AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core - CPU Performance Whatever, the USA and the rest of the West have lost a lot of ground. Any semiconductor expertise decapitations are likely to be self-inflicted now. Best smarten up and use brains for once. The arrogant market sanctions aggressiveness is no longer an option. Actually, I am happy about that.