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To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (770520)	10/30/2022 8:59:27 AM
From: alanrs	2 Recommendations Recommended By Hank Scorpio Winfastorlose Respond to of 793801

The thing about forbidden words is that they gain a lot of power.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (770520)	10/30/2022 10:30:37 AM
From: Bob	4 Recommendations Recommended By didjuneau Neeka skinowski TimF Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

Forgive me in advance for not believing that "report". I have never seen the n word from all the people I follow or anything they have tweeted or retweeted. I assume you will see it more if you follow rap artists and such. Or if you go actively searching for it by entering said word in the search box Who has the desire to do that? This is just more of what "they" told us would happen if Musk took over.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (770520)	10/30/2022 12:18:05 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

The posting public knows what is acceptable, and if not, where have they been? The terms of use on SM platforms ask for civility. If people aren't willing or able to take personal responsibility for their behavior, then they get the boot. What Musk and his team need to do is narrow it down to the basics. Hard job...........I don't envy them.........but definitely necessary imo.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (770520)	10/30/2022 12:21:30 PM
From: Maple MAGA	1 Recommendation Recommended By briskit Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

I hope this piece from the great Jaroslav Hašek answers your question. I have taken the liberty to bold parts that apply especially to you. "It was once said, and very rightly, that a man who is well brought up may read anything. The only people who boggle at what is perfectly natural are those who are the worst swine and the finest experts in filth. In their utterly contemptible pseudo-morality they ignore the contents and madly attack individual words. Those who boggle at strong language are cowards, because it is real life which is shocking to them, and weaklings like that are the very people who cause most harm to culture and character. They would like to see the nation grow up into a group of over-sensitive little people - masturbators of false culture of the type of St. Aloysius, of whom it is said in the book of the monk Eustachius that when he heard a man breaking wind with deafening noise he immediately burst into tears and could only be consoled by prayers. People like that express their indignation in public but take unusual pleasure in going to public lavatories to read obscene inscriptions on the walls."

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (770520)	10/30/2022 5:31:54 PM
From: i-node	10 Recommendations Recommended By Alan Smithee Berk didjuneau frankw1900 greenspirit and 5 more members Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793801

My views on free speech are shaped somewhat by a conversation I had online with a guy about 20 years ago. I didn't really know him but had seen him around that forum a lot. We argued about free speech for a few days and I really felt I wasn't getting through with my point, which is you must have limitations. His argument, as a recall was more like, "No, it'll take care of itself." He may have had restrictions in mind, but they weren't much as far as I could see, IIRC. So, finally I decided here's one he will have to address. "So, let's suppose that at 7pm after the evening news when the kids sit down to watch something on TV, some business decided it would broadcast XXX Porn on the TV. Do you think THAT should be allowed?" His answer was in so many words, "sure." It drove me crazy. His argument was simple in that if it were unacceptable the free market would drive it out. I thought it was insane. We never agreed, but he won the argument, in which I came to understand he was fundamentally correct. (At the time, I knew nothing about him -- today, I know he went on to argue and WIN one of the biggest cases to come before the Supreme Court since then). I was clearly outmatched from the outset, never had a chance. I say he won the argument because today, I understand the wisdom in having actual free speech. Not just within the meaning of the government purview but in the ultra-wide view of society. I have seen the twitter mess, of course. But I've also seen people dying of covid because woke-ism won the free speech argument, and science was pushed down in favor of absolutist dogma; where Houston Methodist fired its nurses for not wearing cloth masks when (a) they didn't have enough nurses in the first place, and (b) there was and still is zero credible scientific proof of cloth mask efficacy. They killed Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine when almost no legitimate studies of the protocols that showed efficacy were conducted (the tendency was to try giving these drugs alone, which no one ever suggested was a good idea). They studied everything EXCEPT what worked. I've seen the anti-Trump lies from newspapers grow for weeks on end while pro-Trump truths were killed before they were ever made public. All lies. No truth. None of it. Two impeachments, no factual reporting. And now a Jan 6 inquisition with NO CROSS EXAMINATION of witnesses, again hiding all truth. One day, CNN reported some BS and claimed they had 22 unnamed sources verifying it. 22! That's got to be true. Of course, nope. The Hunter Biden Laptop is still behind bars in the FBI's office. Sitting quietly. Where truth can do no damage to the sitting president. I say open the floodgates. My old arguing partner was right. Sunshine is a great disinfectant. Let's have it. People will learn to sort out truth from fiction. Having to sort out the truth is better than having zero access to it, and that's what's happened in recent years.