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To: margin_man who wrote (20589)2/11/1998 9:47:00 PM
From: porcupine --''''>  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36349
 
<< Are my calculations correct? >>

I don't believe so. You forgot to add the $50,000 options purchase to your total market value. This brings the sum to $200,000, which means that your equity has returned to 50%.

Look at it this way: If your market value rises $50,000 above the 50% equity mark, they will, if you request, mail you a check for the $50,000. Since you could just turn around and mail it back to them with a written order to purchase $50,000 worth of options, why wouldn't they just execute the order without the roundtrip to the US Post Office --???>



To: margin_man who wrote (20589)2/11/1998 10:33:00 PM
From: Greg Thornton  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36349
 
Patriot,

I think you were right in the first place:

Total portfolio: 100,000
Equity: 50000 --> Margin: 50000. So this is 50% equity.

Say the stock goes up, so your equity goes up another 50000. And the
account will look like this:

portfolio value: up to 150000
equity: up to 100000 ----> Margin: still 50000


Assuming you can't borrow below 50% margin, you can either borrow $50K for marginable securities or $25K for cash, options, etc. (non-marginable).

If you buy $50K of marginable securities, the account now looks like this:

portfolio value: up to 200000
equity: still 100000 ----> Margin: up to 100000
margin percentage = 50%

but if you buy options, or take the money out in cash:

portfolio value: still 150000
equity: now 75000 ----> Margin: up to 75000
margin percentage = 50%

So the available margin goes up dollar for dollar for marginable security purchases only, but $.50 per dollar for cash transactions.

Right?

Greg